Wow!

Casper

NAXJA Forum User
Location
Payson, Arizona
First time I have posted a question and have not had even one reply. Maybe it is because I am the one that has broken ground on this type of problem. I never really had any serious problems with my electrical on my 1995 Grand Cherokee until I hooked up my small trailer last week. Now none of the power windows will work. I have checked all the fuses and they are OK, and went to the dealer today and they ran a quick check on the circuit and found all the relay and fuses to be OK. I took the door panel off on the driver's side and checked all the wiring and connections and they are OK. Anyone have any suggestions or guess on what I might try next......................

Thanks in Advance,
Keith Orr
Casper
Payson, AZ
 
Check the wiring that goes between the body and door. These wires are known to break and cause the windows not to work. Just pull back the rubber boot and check all the wires for cracked insulation or breaks. If they are bad, then a new harness is needed. Repairing the wires is a good temporary fix, but they will break again.

BTW, maybe nobody wanted to reply to a ZJ question on an XJ website? Or maybe you are invisible, since Casper is a friendly ghost, right? :dunno:

Bryan
 
For the oil sender, I'd check the terminal connexion at the sender proper, I've seen vibrations loosen the connexion or break the wire through fatigue. Also, sometimes removing the sender, cleaning it, and putting it back in will help. Use never-seez or a very thin layer of RTV Copper when you put it back together - both are metal-bearing and will assist in grounding the sender.

For the voltmeter - I don't know where they tap the power in the ZJ, so you'll just have to trace that ckt out for yourself. I'd probably start with a good multimeter (analogue, for something like this) and a pair of piercing probes, and a drive. Have a helper watch the gage for you while you try to make the panel jump, and see if the multimeter jumps as well. If it does, it's a wiring fault. If it doesn't, the gage in the panel has failed (and it will probably be cheaper to get an entire panel from a salvage yard than to buy just the VM from the dealership...) Try to tap the voltmeter signal wire as close to the IP connexion as possible, to isolate the gage. If you have two meters and a set of long clip leads, I'd run one to the battery as well (but I don't know too many other people who have about five multimeters...)

If a vehicle has a voltmeter, it's a cinch that's it's not tapped into the best place available. My wife's 89 reads a consistent two volts lower than battery, and my 88 is all over the place. Both have a supplemental LED display that happens to be in a spare set of 12VDC power points I installed, and are viewable by the driver, which are more accurate than the gages. I'll rewire the gages properly later.

GOod luck - automotive electrics is the single most trying branch of mechanics. If you don't have a factory manual - GET ONE! Check with Leon Rosser Jeep - IIRC, they have most of them, and the prices are reasonable. Pay whatever they want - it will pay off greatly later.

5-90
 
I want to thank everyone for all the help. I have now had two or more replies on checking the wiring between the door and body. I am checking it in the morning, and will let you all know what I find. So far as the ZJ question on the XJ site, I have an XJ as well and according to the dealer the windows system is very close to the same as the XJ system. I didn't take anything said as a bad reply, I know that all was said for the better of my situation. Thank you for all the help,

Casper
 
Just having a little fun at your expense is all. Come on, I thought the invisible comment was funny. You being a ghost and all, Casper. Sorry, I guess I am just a :looser:


Bryan:anon:

BTW 5-90, WTF were you posting about?
 
Bryan, I want to thank you for your advice. I did take a look a the wiring that goes between the body and door, and there it was, four broken wires in the harness. I repaired them and everything is working great now. I will replace the harness as soon as the part comes in that I ordered. I appreciate your help. Looking for electrical problems can really test ones patience, not to mention if you take it in to have a shop work on it you will pay through the nose.................

Thanks,
Casper


Bryan C. said:
Check the wiring that goes between the body and door. These wires are known to break and cause the windows not to work. Just pull back the rubber boot and check all the wires for cracked insulation or breaks. If they are bad, then a new harness is needed. Repairing the wires is a good temporary fix, but they will break again.

BTW, maybe nobody wanted to reply to a ZJ question on an XJ website? Or maybe you are invisible, since Casper is a friendly ghost, right? :dunno:

Bryan
 
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