Which political party are you?

[javajeep]

Bush is not the cause of all of the worlds problems, it would be nice if that were true, but it isn't.

Which party belives in a policy of "we must protect the citizens from themselves, we must give them everything they need, and we must charge them four times what they would pay for these things themselves."

At this point in history Republicans are better for our country than Dems would be. That said I'm still other.

I don't blame Bush for all of the problems --- he is only one guy and not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He could not have done all of the damage in the past 6 years by himself.

I place blame squarely on the repugnant party. Only two of them are worth anything: McCain -- a true American Hero and Chuck Hagel. The rest are just like Tom Hot Tub Delay and are pillaging our country for their own gain.

You are correct ---- dems are doing jack sh*. Repugs control everything: congress, senate, and whitehouse. On the federal level, there are no dems with any power to do anything.

When the Big Dog was prez., we had the largest SURPLUS in history. Now, we have the largest DEFICIT in history. They don't care about the country --- only themselves. When golden boy's polls tanked after Katrina, they gave out thousands of $400 (I think I am right about the amount) debit cards so that people could go to strip clubs. The ONLY purpose was to rescue shrub's poll numbers. WTF!!!!

People who believe that the Big Daddy republicans are better at protecting you from the mean terrorists need to have their head examined. Where is Osama???? Why can't the fix the problem with North Korea???? If we had smarter people in office, instead of the Keystone Cops, these problems could be dispensed with in short order.

 

[Roxtar]

Can you please add Communist so I can cast my vote?

Thanks...

Democrat is already on the list.

 

[SCW]

Democrat is already on the list.

Perfect.

 

[Roxtar]

I don't blame Bush for all of the problems --- he is only one guy and not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He could not have done all of the damage in the past 6 years by himself.

I place blame squarely on the repugnant party. Only two of them are worth anything: McCain -- a true American Hero and Chuck Hagel. The rest are just like Tom Hot Tub Delay and are pillaging our country for their own gain.

You are correct ---- dems are doing jack sh*. Repugs control everything: congress, senate, and whitehouse. On the federal level, there are no dems with any power to do anything.

When the Big Dog was prez., we had the largest SURPLUS in history. Now, we have the largest DEFICIT in history. They don't care about the country --- only themselves. When golden boy's polls tanked after Katrina, they gave out thousands of $400 (I think I am right about the amount) debit cards so that people could go to strip clubs. The ONLY purpose was to rescue shrub's poll numbers. WTF!!!!

People who believe that the Big Daddy republicans are better at protecting you from the mean terrorists need to have their head examined. Where is Osama???? Why can't the fix the problem with North Korea???? If we had smarter people in office, instead of the Keystone Cops, these problems could be dispensed with in short order.

My father once told me, "There are two kinds of people you never want to argue with; Someone who's right and someone who's completely ignorant."

I have nothing to say to you.
And no, you're not right.

 

[5-90]

My father once told me, "There are two kinds of people you never want to argue with; Someone who's right and someone who's completely ignorant."

I have nothing to say to you.
And no, you're not right.

So, is that anything like "Never have a battle of wits with the unarmed?"

5-90

 

[goodburbon]

A major Turn off for me comes from both sides, but is way more prevalent from the Dems.

A severe lack of respect for the office of the Presidency.

He is the PRESIDENT and not MR. BUSH. Clinton is no longer the PRESIDENT! It is disrespectful and just plain rude to refer to them as such.

I find it very funny that you bring up 2 of Ex- President Clintons huge f-ups and place them squarely on the Republicans.

Osama was offered to the U.S. Clinton didn't take the offer.

Clinton HANDED North Korea nuclear technology.

I am partial to no side here, but your glaring errors show your ignorance and predjudice.

Where is Other when you really need him?

 

[XJSpencer]

When the Big Dog was prez., we had the largest SURPLUS in history.

You think He created the economy that produced the surplus? Wrong! That economy was created by Pres. Reagan and Pres. Bush Senior. We are now suffering the efeects of 8 years of Pres. Clinton in office.

 

[TRNDRVR]

I think both posts were in the same spirit. :cheers:

Yep....Now where'd I leave that stir stick? :angel:

 

[javajeep]

You think He created the economy that produced the surplus? Wrong! That economy was created by Pres. Reagan and Pres. Bush Senior. We are now suffering the efeects of 8 years of Pres. Clinton in office.

:huh:

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Now --- repeat after me good republican economic genius schooled in Limpballs institute of conservative brainswashing:

UP is Down.

2 + 2 = 5

Right is Left.

I thought that republicans were all about taking responsibility for their own actions. Doesn't seem so.

:dunno:

 

[ssjkakkarotx]

where do you think Clinton got that "surplus" from?
1. gutting the military
2. Internet boom in which he had nothing do to with.

And fact is there never was a surplus. We still had 6 trillion in debt.

 

[TRNDRVR]

I think this post now deserves a.......

Carry on.

 

[\\'anderer]

where do you think Clinton got that "surplus" from?
1. gutting the military
2. Internet boom in which he had nothing do to with.

And fact is there never was a surplus. We still had 6 trillion in debt.

Clinton had nothing to do with the internet, it was Gore that claimed to have invented it, HaHaHa:looser:

 

[5-90]

Clinton had nothing to do with the internet, it was Gore that claimed to have invented it, HaHaHa:looser:

Moot point. I won't believe we have an "economic surplus" until two things happen...

1) The American National Deficit is either paid off or absolved (considering the amount of debt we've "forgiven" other countries, I wonder why we're still waiting...?)
2) The annual trade deficit with the Pacific Rim is either balanced (for a net ZERO balance between imports and exports, in absolute dollar value) or tilted in favour of the United States.

These are probably not going to happen. 1) because we're still perceived as the "richest boy in town" and there's no reason to absolve us of debt (again, like we've done with so many) and 2) because until people realise what "price-shopping" is doing to the United States, we're going to continue to buy crap (yep - that's right, crap. Shoddily- and cheaply-made crap) from the Pacific Rim, most notably Mainland China (who gave them MFN trading status, anyhow? Just wondering - I thought we had an internal war on account of slavery, indirectly speaking...)

Until we have a surplus we can actually BANK, we don't have a practical surplus - someone in Congress was just remiss on his spending duties that year...

5-90

 

[boise49ers]

Moot point. I won't believe we have an "economic surplus" until two things happen...

1) The American National Deficit is either paid off or absolved (considering the amount of debt we've "forgiven" other countries, I wonder why we're still waiting...?)
2) The annual trade deficit with the Pacific Rim is either balanced (for a net ZERO balance between imports and exports, in absolute dollar value) or tilted in favour of the United States.

These are probably not going to happen. 1) because we're still perceived as the "richest boy in town" and there's no reason to absolve us of debt (again, like we've done with so many) and 2) because until people realise what "price-shopping" is doing to the United States, we're going to continue to buy crap (yep - that's right, crap. Shoddily- and cheaply-made crap) from the Pacific Rim, most notably Mainland China (who gave them MFN trading status, anyhow? Just wondering - I thought we had an internal war on account of slavery, indirectly speaking...)

Until we have a surplus we can actually BANK, we don't have a practical surplus - someone in Congress was just remiss on his spending duties that year...

5-90

Well out of all of us Bozo's, 5-90 sounds the most intellegent and informed. I vote for you next President. By the sounds of it he has actually studied Economics and isn't blowing hot air he hears on the Radio and Television.
You duh Man ! Neither party is living up to their ends of the deal. SUCK'S !
Funny how the opposing parties never give credit for good things one has done and everything bad is that parties fault. I do it too !
Any way I may have unsubscibe to this thread. It is taking up way to of my time:variety:

 

[XJEEPER]

Which was my point several pages ago...throwing poo at the opposite party/parties solves nothing.

Electing Reps and a President with a spine, moral fortitude and uncompromising conviction to do what's best for the USA are the only things that will help us pull out of the tailspin that we're in politically..... not sure these folks want to dive into the toilet that our government has become.

 

[5-90]

Well out of all of us Bozo's, 5-90 sounds the most intellegent and informed. I vote for you next President. By the sounds of it he has actually studied Economics and isn't blowing hot air he hears on the Radio and Television.
You duh Man ! Neither party is living up to their ends of the deal. SUCK'S !
Funny how the opposing parties never give credit for good things one has done and everything bad is that parties fault. I do it too !
Any way I may have unsubscibe to this thread. It is taking up way to of my time:variety:

Nope - all my "economic advice" is based upon my own observations, not on "education."

Economics is a combination of a mass hallucination and a work of pure fiction. It's largely predicated upon the "universal value of a monetary unit" - which is itself a flawed assumption.

F'rinstance, the US economy hinges upon "the value of a dollar." Huh? We've been off the gold standard for 30-40 years (it was apparently rescinded in the 1970's, not 1933, as I'd previously thought) and what the dollar can buy is based upon the "full faith and credit" of a country that is quite a few billion dollars in debt to the rest of the world.

If I handled my money the way the US handles ours, I'd expect to have a FICO score in the low 100's - at best.

Since "economics" is therefore not based upon a universal law or truth (and not one made up by Man) and can't effectively be quantified mathematically with a universal model (too much psychology involved -and we don't have an accurate and consistent mathematical or chemical model of that, either...) then I can't see wasting more than random reading on the subject. If it can't be quantified mathematically - with a high degree of consistency - it ain't science. I'd rather study ballistics.

Not having been educated in economics, however, seems to do a couple things for me:
1) It frees me up to "speak what I see," without having to defer to "mathematical models" (I've seen them - there are too many variables!) or "common wisdom" (which is neither "common" nor "wisdom.")
2) It opens my eyes from the "tunnel vision" that most "economists" suffer from, and therefore allows me to consider more factors in my own observations. Economics, as I'd alluded to earlier, ain't all about money. Sociology and psychology seem to play greater factors than these bozos we hear on the news would care to admit to in public.

I don't care to hear from either party, to be perfectly honest - I just haven't seen any groundwork laid for a viable third party, compleatly dissociated from the actions and principles of the other two. Therefore, American Socialist, Communist, and other parties aren't in the running.

"Libertiarians" are barely there, but they seem to be becoming diluted to the point where, by the time they become viable, there won't be much difference between them and the Republicrats/Demicans anyhow.

As far as "the opposing party giving credit for the good things done," I'd like to hear examples. Sorry, but I can probably shoot holes in most political "good works" of the last fifty years - you'll find that most "good deeds" they do are designed to benefit themselves first, and other people second.

"The ideal person to wield political power is a person who does not want it."

"Government is never carried out for the benefit of the governed."

"An elected official spends so much time trying to get re-elected that he does not have time for anything else. This gives argument in favour of term limits - if they can't re-run, then they can actually do something useful. Terms should be served one at a time, without possibility of being re-elected until that individual has been out of office for a term. This applies at all levels."

"A politician is an individual who cannot make it in the 'real world.' Whether this is due to a lack of saleable skills (and being able to make it in trades) or due to a lack of wit (and therefore unable to make it in 'professional occupations,') his only true commodity is his jawbone, and he sells it in volume. Unfortunately, it is what most of us are looking for."

You should be able to attribute two of those, and the other two (I'm fairly sure) are mine. Which is which? :read:

5-90

 

[Nevada City Sparky]

Liberal Democrat and Proud of it. I'm a Liberal Redneck. Of course, living in Hippie Heaven, that makes me a conservative.

 

[boise49ers]

Yeah you do ! Do you know David Anderson ? Ram pick up I think now. Crazy little guy. Has a sister who would live around there too. Darlene with a son Billy who would be in his 20s.

 

[Menzenski]

I heartily agree with 5-90 that government should be as small as possible. Don't illegalize "victimless crimes" like drug use, gambling and prostitution. It's my life, let me do with it what I will. As long as my decisions only impact myself, what's the problem? If I'm old and sick and want to die, who is the government to stop me from being in control of my own body? I think abortion should be legal. I find its use as a retroactive birth control completely abhorrent, but if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant she should have the option of an abortion.

I don't know exactly where I fall on the political spectrum. I think our nation would be much better off if we relied less on legislation and more on education.

 

[Pat]

Yeah you do ! Do you know David Anderson ? Ram pick up I think now. Crazy little guy. Has a sister who would live around there too. Darlene with a son Billy who would be in his 20s.

is that Donnie Baker?

I like the softy Dems that complain about everything but have no solutions. general public, people in office, media in bed with the Dems, etc.

we're not all going to agree on everything nor always have the best solution. but if you're going to whine about something, at least conjure up a way to solve the problem.