suggestions for new radiator (upgrade?)

[justkain]

I just got the prolient one you were talking about for 225 from Advanced Auto. It's 3 core with copper and brass construction. It should work fine if your worried about the aluminum and plastic ones.

 

[tonofclay2]

So Talyn and jeeperjohn, what would you think about the ffdynamics radiator and doing the taurus fan swap, maybe with another electric fan to replace the mechanical. Really a lot more than I want to do but seems like a great idea? Dang $440 huh, yikes.

 

[tonofclay2]

correction the $225 is as talyn says, for the fans. Still can't decide on a radiator. ff is out of the full set-up

 

[zr2toxj]

I just ordered a Silla all aluminum. Hope to see it by Saturday.

 

[Talyn]

correction the $225 is as talyn says, for the fans. Still can't decide on a radiator. ff is out of the full set-up

$449 for the full setup. I wonder if their radiator has and issue with using the stock fans and if you can purchase it separately. It looks like a good unit.

I would go with the ffdynamics rad if it can be had or the Genesis, but it seem cheaply made. There is also this one: http://www.quadratec.com/products/51210_7002_07.htm

 

[jeeperjohn]

So Talyn and jeeperjohn, what would you think about the ffdynamics radiator and doing the taurus fan swap, maybe with another electric fan to replace the mechanical. Really a lot more than I want to do but seems like a great idea? Dang $440 huh, yikes.

The Taurus fan setup works very well but it is a pain in the a$$ to install. The best airflow would be with the engine driven fan but if you can't stand the noise (like me) then I would go with either the fans from FFdynamics or SPAL fans. The SPAL fans are more than the FFD fans but they are rock solid reliable and move a sh!tload of air. DO NOT use your local parts store brand fans. Companies such as Hayden are now sourcing their fans from china and the are china quality. I have many overheats as a result of those piece of crap china fans. One almost caught my rig on fire.

 

[Rod Knee]

For what its worth...

My CSF 3 row also leaks. Tranny fluid, I think from the fitting that connects the tranny cooler to the tranny line.

Its only been in my jeep for about 6 months.

 

[Blaine B.]

I have been through 2 CSF 3 cores and they have been exceptional. The first one was only in service for a few months until my mechanical fan clutch went into the radiator. Their warranty took care of everything and I didn't have to spend a penny. The only thing I had to spend $ on was when I ditched the clutch fan and went to efans so I never had to worry about that again! But more or less it was due to the junk AutoZone motor mounts.....I went with BrownDog mounts since and don't think I'd have to worry about the motor moving forward ever again anyway.

 

[88 Wagonman]

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Silla Radiator - ALL Aluminum
1991-2001 Jeep Cherokee

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1991-2001 Jeep Cherokee SILLA2335AA$162.00

1999: Sport; 6Cyl 4.0L;





1999: Limited; 6Cyl 4.0L;





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1999: Classic; 6Cyl 4.0L;







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THATS what ya want!!!!

I couldn't find any info on the tube size or number of rows, anyone know? Any more feedback good or bad? I ask because I am getting ready to hit the add to cart button tonight.

 

[l4cl4c]

Here is another choice: GRI-5-591LB-FAX Griffin. 2 x 1.25" core direct fit about 580 at summit. Also Be Cool 60088 runs 500, but must run an external cooler.

Any response from a Silla OWNER on the thickness or # of cores and with of cores would be helpfull.

 

[l4cl4c]

I got in a bind and went for the Be Cool. (Summit in stock, which shows up next day with regular shipping where I live.)

I must say now that it is installed, it is great. Previously I converted to the 1992 open style cooling and was running a 7 year old 3 core GDI or Modine, I can't recall which. I have put about 60K miles on the 3 core and keep the fins clean. My electric fan is the newer style XJ fan with a Summit temp swtich turning it on at 185F. I also have all the stock AC parts in place and running on the budget installed (esther oil and R134 charge with no other changes.) I had several years ago upgraded the fan clutch with a newer one that was 3.65 inches wide, while stock is 3.06. With the new radiator I went back to the stock fan clutch for space. The HD version may have fit, but it was only going to be about 0.3 inches spacing. Too tight for my taste. With the stock fan clutch is has about I run the Energy Eurothane brand motor mounts so I would have likely been ok, since the are almost like solid mounts and don't flex much.

Other than that the install went smooth. Just know that the radiator needs to be tilted forward to help with space while installing the fan/clutch assembly. This was the same as with the 3 core for me. Had to bend AC lines slightly where they U around the radiator tank on the passenger side. Removed old stock trans cooler and replaced with much larger B&M cooler in the same place.

Engine is Renix 4L that is 30 over with about 80,000 since rebuild, with a mild cam upgrade, bored throttle body, 21lbs injectors, Borla header, stock 2 year old cat and muffler, MSD 6AL with SS coil. (Had the MSD stuff laying around, haven't noticed much change from the stock ignition.) I do plug readings now and them and the engine does not appear to run lean. All emission controls still in place and most less than 3 years old.

Jeep 1989 is lifted about 7 inches with 33x10.50x15 and 4.10 gears. D30 front and Ford 9 back. Heavy winch and bumper upfront. Stock hitch in back. All other interior and body is stock.

Before: at about 95F outside with Max AC on it would climb fast go to 230 and higher if I didn't shut off the AC during highway driving 65mph. This was worth about 15 minutes of AC time-basically worhtless and can't use the AC. City driving will overheat the engine with AC. With No AC on the Jeep would stay at about 210 unless it was pushed hard or towing 3000 lbs up hill for at least 15 minutes. Summer trips up to Tahoe (not towing) going 65-70 the engine would creep up to 230, slowing down to 55-60 the engine would stay at 210-220.

After: at about 95 on highway 65mph AC on MAX Jeep runs 195-200 and the AC IS SOOO COLD. (this equals happy wife). Can idle in driveway with AC on indefinitely and traffic is a breeze too. The Jeep engine temp now appears to be controlled by the thermostat. If pushed hard the engine shows no signs of temp change. Don't tow much and haven't tried yet.

Wish I would have done this along time ago. Even when the 3 core was brand new with the HD clutch fan the jeep was always riding the line of 210-220. The almost 600 for Radiator and tranny cooler hurt my wallet for the old Jeep, but Heck Being Cool makes up for it (ha ha). Also I spend more than that on tires every few years.

I hope this helps you all. I gave as much info as possible so you can compare to your set ups. (or be bored with all the part blah blah)

 

[outlander]

Another unhappy person here.A few months ago I installed a new cse 3 row from radiator barn and seems like the jeep is running hotter than it did with the old stocker.Tried the go jeep method of flow restriction to no avail....still runs around 210 even at free way speed.

 

[Blaine B.]

My 3 core CSF radiator has been great! Me thinks you have other problems....^^^

 

[Talyn]

210* is normal.

 

[dan89XJ]

I just installed a CSF 3 core rad from radiator barn.. I decided to go with good ol reliable copper. Also went with a HD clutch fan from a wrangler, it says at or under 210 without a fan shroud or the electric fan. I imagine after installing a shroud, and the electirc fan, it'll stay under 210 without any problems. Also still running 195 thermo and stock water pump.

 

[outlander]

My 3 core CSF radiator has been great! Me thinks you have other problems....^^^

what temps do you run at and what is your setup?

 

[89xj]

Another unhappy person here.A few months ago I installed a new cse 3 row from radiator barn and seems like the jeep is running hotter than it did with the old stocker.Tried the go jeep method of flow restriction to no avail....still runs around 210 even at free way speed.

210 is normal.

what thermostat are you running?

 

[dan89XJ]

210* is normal.

X2

Make sure there isnt an air pocket in the coolant system, and get a new radiator cap. If the system cant hold pressure(radiator cap not doing its job) it wont cool properly.

 

[Blaine B.]

Below 210. I have 3 10" flex-a-lite efans. I have them set to turn on after my temp gets above 210. Maybe 215 or so. Then they cool it off below 210 and turn off. Maybe 195 or so they shut off.

OEM 195 degree thermosta as well. Goodyear hoses.

 

[outlander]

My specs are:
open cooling conversion.New cap,195* thermo,hoses,new cse 3 row,Dual procomp electric fans wired to manual switch.