Something that grinds my nerves


An excellent idea, but the sticking point for me is making it a "revenue neutral" proposition.

No, make it a 7-10% tax, fire two-thirds of government (they're middle management anyhow,) stop paying Congresscrittes (who are, in the main, independently wealthy,) and stop paying retirement for Congresscritters ("politician" should never have become a career choice.)

The problem is that, in government, most of what we pay in goes to pay salaries for people who don't actually produce anything but - maybe! - fire-lighters and bog paper. So why are we paying them?

Make them go do something productive for a living, and we'll revalue the dollar!
 
EDIT: XJCruiser:, Ain't nothing wrong with WIC. Me and my wife are on it also. Food Stamps ought to be the same way, each certificate is for a specific item, and you'll never see shrimp or filet mignon on one of them.[/quote]

I am in no way saying that I dont like using it, I actually love it because it saves me around $35 for food and about $65-70 for Formula. I am just wondering if every state has different items on their checks/stamps that you would be able to get shrimp or filet mignon because I know they dont offer it in PA. We have been denied food stamps numerous times but always end up with the same denial "between the two of you, you make too much money". Go figure.
 
So you finally got a welfare check and because the store wouldn't cash it you stole a cartful of food? Sounds like you're just as bad as the people abusing the system...;)

I was good for about a hundred yards on a good day, each little foray cost me hours of agony. Besides, it was a few days before Thanksgiving and yes I did steal a turkey too.
Doc threatened to put me in the hospital and in traction if he caught me walking on my cast again. I destroyed the bottom of my cast, panicked and tried to fix it with fiber glass resin, boy does that stuff get hot when it cooks off.

Ecksgay ought to lay off smoking his home grown vegetables, the giggles are messing with his "A" game.

Point is people get desperate when they get hungry, welfare does likely cut down on criminality.
 
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I used to work in the grocery business. You saw this kind of stuff all the time. In Texas, foodstamps are electronic on a card. The grocery store checkstands know what is foodstampable and what isn't. Any food items that are not hot-prepared are fare game. I've seen plenty of lobster tails and steaks go out when I couldn't afford it.

You should see the kind of food thats in the baskets though. You will not see healthy items. You will see junk food, soda, frozen dinners, etc. There is usually very little fresh vegetables, rice/ beans, etc.
 
Now don't get angry, I just thought it was funny. Doesn't that negate the 'uniform' time though? :shhh:
Had a break in service, went back in after my leg was working well enough, though I never really have lost the limp.
I actually worked as a furniture mover for awhile, just to get back in shape again. Got my Journeyman licensee and went to college for a couple of years, I kept busy.
 
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My Wife's parents are both disabled. Her father was seriously injured by a big rig running over his car on his way to work several years ago. Can barely walk using a cane. Her mother has had parkinson's disease for almost 10 years, and has chronic siezures as well. She cannot drive or even cook herself a meal. She has been denied disability. She has appealled three times and has been denied all three times. The literally live off of one disability check (her fathers) of about $600/month. Plus he is forced to try to work at a convenience store, but it is honestly killing him.

When I was a cop I used to book people into jail after I had chased them on foot for 10-15 blocks jumping over fences and etc... and when I asked them where they were employed they would tell me they were disabled. Most claimed to have bad knees or bad backs.... however, they were only too bad to work, not too bad the break the law and then run from the police though. Also when I was a parole officer I had 18 year old Thugs who refused to get jobs, because hey claimed they were disabled. After asking them how they were disabled they couldn't tell me. Their mother just started getting them disability checks when they were kids, and they were still getting it. THEY COULDN"T F***ING EVEN TELL ME HOW THEY WERE DISABLED.

If you can't tell this is a very touchy subject with me.

Luckily my wife and I have been doing fairly well in our careers and lifes, and have recently been able to purchase some rental units (several fourplexes), one of which we moved her parents into free of charge. It is nice to be able to help them out, but it truely sucks how F***ed up the system is that they cannot get help, and the scumbags I used to deal with on a daily basis had all the assistance they needed to get a free ride.
 
Also when I was a parole officer I had 18 year old Thugs who refused to get jobs, because hey claimed they were disabled. After asking them how they were disabled they couldn't tell me. Their mother just started getting them disability checks when they were kids, and they were still getting it. THEY COULDN"T F***ING EVEN TELL ME HOW THEY WERE DISABLED.

Operating concept here - they got used to getting disability, and couldn't get into the idea of working for a living.

As I said, I was told I have a good case for disability, but it took a year and a half to talk me into it. The "incident" three years ago exacerbated my bad back, my bad knee, bunged up the other one, netted me several dozen fractures (days when the weather changes are pure Hell - especially since I can't get a decent painkiller in a useful quantity, and the meds I'm on for the headache I've had for the last fourteen months make me skip "drunk" and go right to "alcohol poisoning." Ergo, I can't drink anymore, either...) and a whole host of other issues.

Works in Progress is my trying to do what I can do to do something useful and productive - even though it isn't much (it has helped with the bills from time to time - problem is, the bills catch up on us and tap what I'd usually allocate to R&D to expand my offerings. That's why I'm so slow with new goodies - I keep getting clobbered with other stuff.) And the books? "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." It's just a difference between "can't because they never could" and "can't because they can't anymore" - I very nearly can't anymore. Doesn't mean I can't help others learn, so I just shift how I do things.

I can see how a working person who suddenly finds himself on disability could see problems with the system, and I see (all the time!) people who abuse the system heavily. I once knew a woman who had a host of medical issues, was on full disability, and still ended up selling dope just to make rent and medical bills. "Rent" was for "low income" housing. My younger son lives in "low income" housing, and a two-bedroom apartment (him, his wife, and my grandson) still runs $1200/month. Last year was $1000/month - they jacked it up $200/month "just on account of 'cause." I see a huge problem with that as well, but that's another discussion.

This was a serious ethical dilemma for me - on the one hand, I can't abide dope dealers - probably because they're poisoning people to make easy money, and lots of it. On the other hand, living here in the Bay Area is difficult at best with a steady income - on disability, it borders on impossible.

I resolved it the best way I could - I simply told her why I decided the way I did, and we haven't spoken in sixteen years. No, I've never turned her in. Hell, this is the first time I've mentioned it to anyone other than my wife in all that time! I don't consider it a "ideal" solution, but it's one I've learned to live with (and even that took me some time.)

I blame, in large measure, the "sense of entitlement" that kids have been raised with in the last 20-25 years or so. I managed to head that off with my two boys, they work for a living! One as a carpenter, one as a plumber.

But, we've got most kids who just get everything handed to them, they're rarely (if ever) punished for anything, they're told "they're special" (but no reason for it - just "you're special" from everyone from Mr. Rogers on down the line...) and they're not pushed to better themselves at anything.

Then, look at education. "Social promotion" is a reality, kids fail courses and get moved along anyhow. Academics are falling by the wayside in favour of "bilingual education" (let's focus on form instead of content. The best textbooks were written in 1975 or earlier - when content was king,) shop courses are being taken out of cirricula everywhere (which is a pity. Not everyone is cut out to work with their minds - and some of us who can still like working with their hands. I know I do... High school is the place to find this out!) and what little is left isn't being taught. Hell, let's look at core English courses - when I took a uni-level English course some three and a half years ago, my first drafts for essays and papers were better-constructed than most kids' final submissions! The only trouble I had with that course was that the instructor was a flaming Liberal - "so open-minded her brain fell out." I had to haul her up in front of the Dean a couple of times, since she failed a couple of my papers because she didn't agree with my opinion - something I also had to deal with in high school (and handled the same way - we go to the principal's office. Now.) It certainly wasn't for use of language, spelling, grammar, logical construction of arguments and statements, or anything like that - she just didn't like what I had to say.

Seems to me that this also contributes to the decline of education - the lack of "intellectual honesty" among faculty discourages independent thought in the student body, and we end up with little drones who just parrot what they were taught. The most common question on tests I took in school was "Why?" If you take a position, you'd better be prepared to defend it, "just because" wasn't an acceptable answer. This encouraged thinking, which is a good thing (and we don't see enough of it anymore.)

Since kids can't - or won't - think for themselves anymore, they just see themselves as being pigeonholed into a spot and they think they can't get out of it (they're wrong - you can recover from a lot. But, they never flex their mental muscle, so they don't know what they can and can't do. Thus, they never make the attempt.)

And we wonder why so many "junior felons" come from welfare families...
 
Operating concept here - they got used to getting disability, and couldn't get into the idea of working for a living.

As I said, I was told I have a good case for disability, but it took a year and a half to talk me into it. The "incident" three years ago exacerbated my bad back, my bad knee, bunged up the other one, netted me several dozen fractures (days when the weather changes are pure Hell - especially since I can't get a decent painkiller in a useful quantity, and the meds I'm on for the headache I've had for the last fourteen months make me skip "drunk" and go right to "alcohol poisoning." Ergo, I can't drink anymore, either...) and a whole host of other issues.

Works in Progress is my trying to do what I can do to do something useful and productive - even though it isn't much (it has helped with the bills from time to time - problem is, the bills catch up on us and tap what I'd usually allocate to R&D to expand my offerings. That's why I'm so slow with new goodies - I keep getting clobbered with other stuff.) And the books? "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." It's just a difference between "can't because they never could" and "can't because they can't anymore" - I very nearly can't anymore. Doesn't mean I can't help others learn, so I just shift how I do things.

I can see how a working person who suddenly finds himself on disability could see problems with the system, and I see (all the time!) people who abuse the system heavily. I once knew a woman who had a host of medical issues, was on full disability, and still ended up selling dope just to make rent and medical bills. "Rent" was for "low income" housing. My younger son lives in "low income" housing, and a two-bedroom apartment (him, his wife, and my grandson) still runs $1200/month. Last year was $1000/month - they jacked it up $200/month "just on account of 'cause." I see a huge problem with that as well, but that's another discussion.

This was a serious ethical dilemma for me - on the one hand, I can't abide dope dealers - probably because they're poisoning people to make easy money, and lots of it. On the other hand, living here in the Bay Area is difficult at best with a steady income - on disability, it borders on impossible.

I resolved it the best way I could - I simply told her why I decided the way I did, and we haven't spoken in sixteen years. No, I've never turned her in. Hell, this is the first time I've mentioned it to anyone other than my wife in all that time! I don't consider it a "ideal" solution, but it's one I've learned to live with (and even that took me some time.)

I blame, in large measure, the "sense of entitlement" that kids have been raised with in the last 20-25 years or so. I managed to head that off with my two boys, they work for a living! One as a carpenter, one as a plumber.

But, we've got most kids who just get everything handed to them, they're rarely (if ever) punished for anything, they're told "they're special" (but no reason for it - just "you're special" from everyone from Mr. Rogers on down the line...) and they're not pushed to better themselves at anything.

Then, look at education. "Social promotion" is a reality, kids fail courses and get moved along anyhow. Academics are falling by the wayside in favour of "bilingual education" (let's focus on form instead of content. The best textbooks were written in 1975 or earlier - when content was king,) shop courses are being taken out of cirricula everywhere (which is a pity. Not everyone is cut out to work with their minds - and some of us who can still like working with their hands. I know I do... High school is the place to find this out!) and what little is left isn't being taught. Hell, let's look at core English courses - when I took a uni-level English course some three and a half years ago, my first drafts for essays and papers were better-constructed than most kids' final submissions! The only trouble I had with that course was that the instructor was a flaming Liberal - "so open-minded her brain fell out." I had to haul her up in front of the Dean a couple of times, since she failed a couple of my papers because she didn't agree with my opinion - something I also had to deal with in high school (and handled the same way - we go to the principal's office. Now.) It certainly wasn't for use of language, spelling, grammar, logical construction of arguments and statements, or anything like that - she just didn't like what I had to say.

Seems to me that this also contributes to the decline of education - the lack of "intellectual honesty" among faculty discourages independent thought in the student body, and we end up with little drones who just parrot what they were taught. The most common question on tests I took in school was "Why?" If you take a position, you'd better be prepared to defend it, "just because" wasn't an acceptable answer. This encouraged thinking, which is a good thing (and we don't see enough of it anymore.)

Since kids can't - or won't - think for themselves anymore, they just see themselves as being pigeonholed into a spot and they think they can't get out of it (they're wrong - you can recover from a lot. But, they never flex their mental muscle, so they don't know what they can and can't do. Thus, they never make the attempt.)

And we wonder why so many "junior felons" come from welfare families...
cliff notes?
 
can't pass up an opportunity to give Jon some good natured crap, especially since he had to give me a red card for dropping the F-bomb earlier

He is usually right, and has well thought out and written points. But, they are definitely on the long side, I want to see the total number of characters against his post count, bet he averages 200 or so minimum.
 
can't pass up an opportunity to give Jon some good natured crap, especially since he had to give me a red card for dropping the F-bomb earlier

He is usually right, and has well thought out and written points. But, they are definitely on the long side, I want to see the total number of characters against his post count, bet he averages 200 or so minimum.

I could try to offer brief answers to complex questions, but that would be ultimately futile.

And "200 or so minimum?" You wound me, sir! I'd bet it was closer to 500...

(Granted, this comes of having to write an awful lot of 6-10 page papers on fairly simple questions as well...)
 
eggs, bread, ground beef, fruit, veggies.

none of the "luxury foods" only nutritional value... why isn't it like this??
 
eggs, bread, ground beef, fruit, veggies.

none of the "luxury foods" only nutritional value... why isn't it like this??

Ah, but if they changed it now, it'd be a lead-pipe cinch that people would pitch fits about it...

(Not that I'm arguing with you - I agree. No smokes, no booze, basic/stable foodstuffs, and that's it.)
 
I could try to offer brief answers to complex questions, but that would be ultimately futile.

And "200 or so minimum?" You wound me, sir! I'd bet it was closer to 500...

(Granted, this comes of having to write an awful lot of 6-10 page papers on fairly simple questions as well...)


I did say minimum, 500 would not surprise me at all.
 
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