Sleeper cars

[IXNAYXJ]

Theres also the pontiac grand prix GTP, supercharged 3.8 looks exactly like a normal grand prix other than the obvious badging. Not sure of the power numbers though.

240 hp, heavy and FWD.

-----Matt-----

 

[98XJSport]

Thats the one. Compared to the 195 horse base, however, could surprise you if thats not what you are expecting. Not a fast car by any means, but in my book that makes it a sleeper...

 

[93_xj]

GMC SyTy

 

[ChuckstrPT]

To help narrow ideas down, I'm thinking a mid to higher end Euro sedan or wagon.

Forgive me, but I didn't read all of these pages on the post, BUT...we had a '99 A4 Avant 1.8t 5spd, upgraded front brakes to 12.5", chipped, and Xenon headlights...for what I paid...it was da bomb. I'd still have it if I didn't have two kids! Just not enough room. Good for one kid, or one dog or so. It made 207h, 245 lbft. If you've got some money, look for an S4 of the generation, you start with 250hp and twin turbo V6. Or for more moollah, get a newer one with the V8, I think 304hp??? The Audi wagons are great sleepers....no one ever expects it to move!
Carry on.....:viking:

 

[CheapXJ]

1991 Audi 200 20v turbo quattro or 92-94 S4

20v Turbo 5-cyl for the win.

best sleeper EVAR

 

[G.Q. Jeeper]

This bad boy looks nasty!

ahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxnrMa49tw&NR

 

[Root Moose]

I kinda like that series of Ladas, kinda late 70s Fiat styling. A friend had one - he couldn't detroy it. Sure, the foo-foo stuff like trim peices and such fell off it regularly but drivetrain and body was pretty tough.

Fergie, Mercedes-Benz W123 with a SBC/SBF/SBD/pick-yer-poison would be pretty butch and a definite sleeper. Maybe even run an M-B donk if you aren't that attached to your money.

 

[Root Moose]

Just to give an idea of what a W123 can look like:

Picture it with some 50 series tires and ride height appropriate for "road racing". These cars also came as coupes and wagons. Produced from 1977-1985. It becomes readily apparent by looking inside one that all the "modern ergonomics" that new cars have were stolen from these cars. You wouldn't have to put up with much "old car quirkiness" sitting behind the wheel.

And they are cheap to purchase!

LS1 would be a good motivator.

 

[casm]

I kinda like that series of Ladas, kinda late 70s Fiat styling. A friend had one - he couldn't detroy it. Sure, the foo-foo stuff like trim peices and such fell off it regularly but drivetrain and body was pretty tough.

I'll second this. I had a Riva 1500 in college for a bit that was an absolute tank. Slow and heavy, but pretty much indestructible. Replaced it with a Niva when I realised it wasn't quite going to cut it in winter where I was.

For a sleeper, you could always get a Riva, replace its engine with a de-smogged Fiat 2-litre twin-cam, build that up appropriately, and have a sleeper with major WTF? value. Ugly? Sure. Perfect candidate.

 

[bjoehandley]

Anybody ever see a Scion XB sleeper, I think I ran across the other night and the little Q-Ship damn near sunk my @$$ and I wasn't even trying to race it!:scared: :wow: :shiver:

 

[Kittrell]

I'd of definitely kept that one to myself.

 

[bjoehandley]

I'd of definitely kept that one to myself.

I figure it musta looked like a toaster was racing a tackle box to anybody who saw it

 

[98XJSport]

Im pretty sure TRD makes a factory supercharger kit for them...

 

[bjoehandley]

Sitting at the light it looked and sounded dead stock, right down to the steel wheels and plastic hub caps, I wasn't expecting it to get out of it's own way let along into mine.......................

 

[BBeach]

Im pretty sure TRD makes a factory supercharger kit for them...

I saw one the other day with the pillar pods, possibly boost and it didnt sound stock. Theres gotta be some aftermarktet tuner for them ugly things. But knowing some of them drivers, he prolly had an analog clock and fuel gauge in his pillar pods. :looser:

 

[87manche]

speaking of:
http://dpcars.net/scion/index.htm
that guys crazy by the way, check out the little race car he designed and built himself.
AWD, near perfect weight distribution and a busa motor

 

[bjoehandley]

speaking of:
http://dpcars.net/scion/index.htm
that guys crazy by the way, check out the little race car he designed and built himself.
AWD, near perfect weight distribution and a busa motor

Tried watching the autocross video, bout makes you sea sick in the chicane, I thought the thing was going to start to go over!

 

[87manche]

yeah, did you see the picture of him lifting two wheels?
can't say he didn't drive the hell outta that little thing.
www.dpcars.net is the home page, I just noticed he doesn't have a link back to the dp1, as he calls it.

 

[motorcityxj]

just remembered an old oddball favorite. I saw a stockish regular mazda 323 a few days ago. They had turbo charged AWD version called the GTX.

earlier version

 

[Matthew Currie]

Just to give an idea of what a W123 can look like:

Picture it with some 50 series tires and ride height appropriate for "road racing". These cars also came as coupes and wagons. Produced from 1977-1985. It becomes readily apparent by looking inside one that all the "modern ergonomics" that new cars have were stolen from these cars. You wouldn't have to put up with much "old car quirkiness" sitting behind the wheel.

And they are cheap to purchase!

LS1 would be a good motivator.

As a long time 123 owner (alas, my old 240D is now retired and about to be chopped up, but the 72 220D lives on) I can confirm that it's a very nice car to drive, and even a clapped-out old rustbucket 123 or 115 chassis has rough-road manners that put just about any other vehicle ever made to shame. I question whether wheel and ride height adjustments are called for. Put really good tires on it keep it a sleeper. I can pretty much guarantee that a plain old diesel third-world taxicab beater Merc with something like Michelin XVS tires will corner predictably at any speed it's capable of reaching, which means basically that if you are being followed on a twisty back road, you will not be caught.