Sierra Fest Raffle Tickets !!

blondejoncherokee

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The raffle will be held at our camp near Dinkey Creek as per the directions in the event thread , Saturday, Aug 13th after the Bald Mountain run for the day and after the BBQ.

Cash at the event, or Paypal Pre Pay between now and the 4th of August. If you want to pre pay , post up in this thread and Gordon will PM you and invoice you.

Otherwise Bring cash to the event !

We are still working on getting a itemized list of prizes from National.

Remember- the proceeds from the Raffle gour yearly Land Use Donations and to book the campsite each year at Reno Fest !

Ticket Prices are:

$2 / Single ticket
$20 / 12 Tix
$50 / 30 Tix
$100/70 Tix

For example if you have $44

you get 12+ 12 +2 = 26 Tickets
If you have $52 you get 31 Tickets.

We are not going to give special breaks for "In between" amounts, so you get rounded down to the $2/ ticket amount if its not a $20 /$50 /$100 increment .

We also cannot do half tickets for 1$.
 
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26 for $44


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Wow


Don't tell people I did that... I have a BA in applied math and I constantly dont pay attention to simple math...
 
I've put a bit too much thought into this raffle, let me know what you think.

Last year we tried this same/a similar method of $/ticket, and if you'll forgive my memory there were donations roughly 40~400 dollars (24-280 tickets by this years rate and proper math). in a bare pick those endpoints alone put it at a 1:11.7 chance in winning a raffled item, not to mention all the other donor's tickets. I'm not accusing or calling anyone out; it's just an observation that the more you donated the higher your chance of winning.

As this is a forum event, and the intent of the raffle is to raise money for land use and the forum: I suggest that instead of a $/ticket rate, only one or two tickets be given to each donor. That way everyone has the same chance to win an item. I also really liked that people brought miscellaneous parts and jeep related items to add to the raffle, I personally would encourage that so long as things are in good condition and safely useable, but I'm not running the event so please refer to the board members and appropriate threads before adding your items to the pile.

I deeply respect the knowledge and experience made available by the people who use this forum, and I can't thank the people who dedicate their time to running these events enough, there's so much I owe to this community. My only intent is to make this event more enjoyable for every member and new enthusiast who attends this and future events. So please chime in if there's a better way.

This is not a perfect solution, there are drawbacks as with every plan. If I maypoint out, in Johns model, 80 dollars could be 48 tickets (20$ for 12 x 4) or 47 (50$ for 30 + 20$ for 12 + $10 for 5) a real minimal point, whats one ticket... (11:1), but it just shows that the math aint perfect even if you add it correctly (only joking!)

I will not be attending the event, I wish all who do a wonderful safe trip with clear, smokeless skies. I made my annual trek to Dinkey Creek curiously at the same time Sharkmark did and the weather could not have been better. Happy wheeling!
 
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As this is a forum event, and the intent of the raffle is to raise money for land use and the forum: I suggest that instead of a $/ticket rate, only one or two tickets be given to each donor. That way everyone has the same chance to win an item.


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I think you missed the point, big time. Even though you typed the line I don't think you understand where the money from this raffle goes. Your NAXJA membership fees go to keep the forum running and to fund large donations to national level land use organizations, like the Blue Ribbon Coalition. The prizes that are raffled off are mostly provided in exchange for advertising on our forum. So that being said the local chapters do not *need* the money generated by the raffle for operating costs. In years past there has been a small fund kept to cover things needed for events like camping reservations, food for organized dinners, and for seed money for the t-shirt orders. All that money is recovered at the event and it keeps the chapter leadership or members from paying out of pocket for these events. The rest of the money is donated to local land use causes that benefit everyone who uses the trails we support.

Since the Sierra Fest raffle is the biggest fund raiser for the year for our chapter why would we not give some sort of incentive for people to donate more money to the chapter? You see it as buying tickets, I see it as a donation. You see it as an opportunity to get something valuable for a small price. I see it as a chance to support this club, this chapter, and the trails we run. If you choose to make a large donation then this is the chapter's way of saying thank you. It's all about perspective.
 
In the above mentioned model sounds alot like socialism. It would actually incentivize people spending less money since we all get 1 ticket so most would end up only throwing in 5 bucks. The ticket model we proposed above incemtives spending more money. It feels very good when we can donate more than expected to one of the grass roots clubs out here in CA .

Really we are just trying to incentivize larger donations by giving bigger ticket amounts aa one spends more . I feel if someone steps up and forks out 200$ for tickets they just earned a bigger chance at prizes. If all you can afford is a couple tix no worries but dont hate on the guys that take risks. We have also had Members before buy alot of tickets and win nothing....and folks buy one ticket and win cool stuff. Its the luck of the draw.
 
the tiers arent linear or 1-1 mapping. We would just go with the higher ticket amount in the event of 2 mappings resulting in 2 seperate amounts.
 
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