I'm not sure. Right now, its sitting the way it is to see if I could adjust it. I'd have to put it all back together to check that. What I'm getting though, is that I may need a set of adjustable control arms to fix this
Doesn't look like you can make any more adjustments. The uppers are not adjustable on the brackets and your lowers are all the way back (at least on one side).
What are the lengths of those arms anyways? I can't remember the recommended lengths but I think uppers are supposed to be 15" and lowers 15.75". Not 100% though.
Lowers-15 3/4
Uppers-15 3/8
That's that length of the arms. Does that mean the uppers need to be 3/8" shorter? Maybe I could just re-drill a hole somewhere.
It depends on your wheelbase measurement and caster. They recommend 15" for upper arms but all jeep setups are different. You set to the recommended length and then adjust them till everything is within or close to factory specs.
So find out what your wheelbase is (measure from center of hub to center of hub on both sides) then figure out what kind of caster you have (i used the bottom of the knuckle on the flat spot next to the ball joints). Post these numbers and it should be obvious what needs to be done.
Wheelbase is about 100" on the passenger side, 100.5 on drivers, both give or take just a bit. I guess for the caster, I'd have to get an angle finder. Don't have one.
Here is how it sits, wheels straight and on the ground. I did notice the front end was a little higher up than before...Didn't think that would happen. I was reading up on maybe a pitman arm thats dropped lower? And something doesn't seem right about the angle of the steering set the way it is.
i'd say pinion angle is perfect... are the splines in the DS just poking out?.. is that too extended??
i have the same brackets (minus braces... seller negated to tell me he didnt have them) & same RE lowers... we'll see how my install goes with factory uppers
i think the issue with the tie-rod is related to the ball joints... did u install before the drop brackets? maybe an alignment will straighten things out... :dunno:
Pinion angle is perfect, but i bet his castor is off. Pinion angle/castor have to meet at a happy medium; can't have both perfect without rotating the "C's".
Looks like you need to put in some adjustable control arms (particulary the uppers.) The whole steering assembly will rotate when you twist the axle, which is why it's hitting places it shouldn't.
Holy hell dude. You rotated the pinion up quite a bit. How much lift do you have? The angles on your arms still look pretty steep even with drop brackets.
When you rotate the pinion up that high, you're losing caster.
Oh wow. *slaps forehead* it was late. Lemme fix that.
On the balljoint question. I installed them before. I got regular lowers and 2 degree uppers. I got the 2 degree ones cause someone at an alignment shop said I needed offset ones and I followed this writeup online but couldn't find offset lowers. Could the uppers cause it to rub like that?
Holy hell dude. You rotated the pinion up quite a bit. How much lift do you have? The angles on your arms still look pretty steep even with drop brackets.
When you rotate the pinion up that high, you're losing caster.
4.5" Rubicon superflex. The angles before werent even close to flat. That's why I decided to get the drop brackets. I'm thinking without adjustable uppers, I pushed the axle to far forward
here's a new pic of the pinion angle. the draglink still hits...
i'd say pinion angle is perfect... are the splines in the DS just poking out?.. is that too extended??
i have the same brackets (minus braces... seller negated to tell me he didnt have them) & same RE lowers... we'll see how my install goes with factory uppers
i think the issue with the tie-rod is related to the ball joints... did u install before the drop brackets? maybe an alignment will straighten things out... :dunno:
4.5" Rubicon superflex. The angles before werent even close to flat. That's why I decided to get the drop brackets. I'm thinking without adjustable uppers, I pushed the axle to far forward
here's a new pic of the pinion angle. the draglink still hits...
Ya the uppers are rotating the axle too far forward, causing the steering to twist and bind, and causing your caster to be effed. Get adjustable uppers then play around with the lengths to find where bumpsteer and driveline vibes are minimized the most....
looks to me like you might be able to get away with adjusting the castor adjustment on the drop brackets out. id try that before springing for new uppers.
