Optima blue top alternatives

Rod Knee

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Did not know that there are several flavors of the blue top battery until just today. I like the idea of having the top mount threaded/wing nut posts auxiliary to the standard posts. For projected infrequent use of my new Smittybilt 8000 winch, would you recommend the D34M or the 34M shown in the link? I anticipate maybe 3 or 4 recoveries per year at most as I am primarily into jeep back country touring rather than heavy duty rock crawling/technical wheeling. My understanding is a starter battery is more readily recharged.
 
Your going to want a Deep Cycle so go with the D34M and do not connect your winch to the side posts. The winch draws too much current for them.
 
http://www.rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/battery.html said:
The Optima Red Top is designed for standard auto and truck applications where starting puts the most load on the electrical system. It is the best Optima battery for people who do not have extreme electrical system loads (like a winch) and who do not use electrical items in their vehicle for long periods of time when the engine is not running. It is now available from Atlantic British for $169.

The Optima Yellow Top is a deep cycle battery. It will last a lot longer than the Red Top starting battery if heavy electrical loads (like a winch) or use of electrical items for long periods of time (like running a stereo or 12V fridge for hours at a time with the engine off) that run the battery down on a regular basis. (I recently found it is now available from Atlantic British for $199). The Yellow Top is still a decent starting battery but due to a different chemistry for the paste material on the plates and a stronger acid it has a little less starting power than the Red Top. Update May 2004: Wayne Hubbell reports: "Optima now makes a D31A battery that fits perfectly in the Range Rover tray. It is a sealed, deep cycle "yellow top" with tremendous cranking current and very good reserve. I have had great luck with their batteries under desert conditions".

The Blue Top Optimas are their Marine batteries and Optima makes both starting (Blue Top, Gray Case) and deep cycle (Blue Top, White Case) marine batteries. The only difference between the "Marine" Optima batteries is the addition of threaded marine terminals in addition to the standard battery terminals. Optima batteries last much longer than regular batteries in boats since the abuse on a battery in a boat in rough water is much worse than in any vehicle.

Truthfully from what I hear Optimas are no longer any good. I would probably look at going to an exide Orbital or something of the sort.
 
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Save your money and buy a walmart battery with 750 or more cca and you will be happy. Blue tops are not meant to be at a constant rate of charge. do you see rock crawlers using them? NO . any battery you use will take the abuse of a winch as long as it can handle the amps. Battery maint is also key to keeping it healthy.Clean the terminals often and add water if it has removable tops. A muddy water trail on top of any battery can make it lose charge no matter the battery type
 
Rod Knee said:
Would you say that the D34M is the equivalent of the yellow top but with the extra posts (yes/no?)
No, the blue tops will cycle deeper, more times than the yellow. The blue top can sit for around a year uncharged and still take a new charge. IMHO, if you're looking at Optimas, go blue and you won't be sorry.
X3 on side posts
FWIW, I ran 2 of the marine blue tops in my last boat. The boat was a 22' Ski Centurion Avalanche tournament wake boat. 800 watt stereo w/2 10' subs and 8 mids/highs, bilge pump, 3 ballast pumps, depth finder, perfect pass, lights, power (electro-hydraulic) engine bay cover and a Mercruiser 350 engine to crank. Over 3 summers @ 120 engine hours/summer, those things were put to some serious abuse and never let me down. The one time they did go down was due to an alternator problem and luckily it happened in the driveway, we knew it was coming.

A little off topic, but one Coast Guard inspection got me a warning for not having an oar to paddle with just in case. Went back the next weekend and let the inspector try to maneuver the boat with the paddle that came w/boat; Yeah right!
 
Truthfully from what I hear Optimas are no longer any good. I would probably look at going to an exide Orbital or something of the sort.

x2 on the orbital... awesome baterry!!
 
x3 on the Orbital Purple Haze. Funny how the bandwagon just kicked in on these... couldn't find any fn' info 4 months ago!
 
The D34M is a Yellow top with marine terminals and the 34M is a Red top with marine terminals. Do some checking I know the yellows got a warranty boost and I think the blues might of as well.
 
Stinger batteries
 
I'll post this here again for information. Odyessy/Sears Platinum series are better batteries than Optima with a better warranty. Seems like a simple choice to me which is why I bought the Sears Platinum P4.

Just for information All Sizes 34/78

Odyssey PC 1500/Sears Die Hard Platinum P-4

* CCA: 880A at 0°F (-18°C)
* CA/MCA: 1,050 at 32°F (0°C)
* Reserve capacity: 135 minutes
* Amp Hours at 20 Hour Rate: 68

Warranty through Sears 48 Month free replacement, 100 month prorated
Cost at Sears $189
Optima Red/Blue/Yellow

* CCA: 800/800/750A at 0°F (-18°C)
* CA/MCA: 1000/1000/870 at 32°F (0°C)
* Reserve capacity: 100/100/120 minutes
* Amp Hours at 20 Hour Rate: 50/50/55

Warranty through Optima/Costco 36 month free replacement, 36 month prorated
Cost at Costco ??
Specs from

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc1500series.htm

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850090000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Batteries+%26+Chargers&sName=Automotive+Batteries

http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/technical_specs.php#yellow2

Odyssey beats the best of Optima in every category. Just run one Odyssey and you will get the benefits of great starting ability and reserve capacity.
 
The Sears battery might be great, but when I asked at Sears about it a while back, all I got was the "deer in the headlights" attitude. I guess I should be used to that by now, since I am an XJ owner.

The Exide battery doesn't have cranking amps listed other than "high", unless I am missing it. Nice brochure though.
 
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