lap-band

[r33pwrd]

If you don't know the difference between lose and loose, then your fat dumb ass should be automatically dropped from any surgeon's list of potential patients.

:dunce:

you should read your own signature... you are a perfect example of it

 

[freerider15]

I'm sorry but stuff like that to me is just a cop out. The ONLY reason to me that someone should get it, is if their health is in serious risk if they don't lose the weight ASAP!

I used to weigh damn near 300 lbs. my junior year of highschool...football coaches loved me. Summer before last (nearly 5 years later), I got down to a hair under 200 lbs. Since then I had shoulder surgery and have blown back up to 250 lbs since I wasn't allowed to do anything physical, and because of my own negligence. I won't lie, i've always had a food addiction (thanks to my moms genes of addiction), and eating right and eating the right amounts is one of the hardest things i've ever had to do.

In the end, i'm tired of people...ESPECIALLY the American people trying to find the easy way out by copping out with surgeries instead of getting off their asses and working hard to achieve it. If they don't want to work their asses off, literally, then they really don't want it that bad. Too many people want it...and want it NOW. Wieght loss is a slow, gradual thing...as in many months...not one month.

 

[Darky]

OK less than .5 percent of people that undergow lapband surgery will die from it and yes if you remove the band you probably gain the weight back... the idea with the band is you will have it forever (an if you did not know the band is adjustable so if and when your stomach stretches you can "make it small again"! Like I said before in a perfect world you would loose weight naturally but that has been proven that this is not usually a long term fix. Im not one to jump into a surgery by any means but when you look at all the side affects and risks of being 300lbs plus the .5 percent death rate is not that bad

Source to back up claim of .5% death rate? How about other side effects? What is the likelihood of death, disfigurement, or injury from good ol fashioned diet and exercise? Does the lap band improve your cardiovascular systems function? Does it strengthen your heart, clear the cholesterol from your veins? Does it give you a stronger body? I've known skinny people who are in just as bad, if not worse, shape than my fat self.

Only exercise will increase your metabolism, strengthen your heart, give you more energy, build your lungs, build your strength, and shed fat. SPeaking of which, what's make up of the weight loss with a lap band? How much is fat, and how much is muscle loss due to lack of food intake.

 

[bigalpha]

and yes if you remove the band you probably gain the weight back...

Because people are stupid, lazy and have no self-control.

it took alot of effort and control on her impulse eating

Lifestyle change is the only one that will provide lasting results,

Eating correctly and exercising is all you really need. A coworker has lost 30 pounds in about 2 months by eating correctly and exercising. Eat all the veggies and fruit you want, but scale back on the meat, dairy and sugar and you won't be huge like a damn whale.

 

[r33pwrd]

Source to back up claim of .5% death rate? How about other side effects? What is the likelihood of death, disfigurement, or injury from good ol fashioned diet and exercise? Does the lap band improve your cardiovascular systems function? Does it strengthen your heart, clear the cholesterol from your veins? Does it give you a stronger body? I've known skinny people who are in just as bad, if not worse, shape than my fat self.

Only exercise will increase your metabolism, strengthen your heart, give you more energy, build your lungs, build your strength, and shed fat. SPeaking of which, what's make up of the weight loss with a lap band? How much is fat, and how much is muscle loss due to lack of food intake.

New England Journal of Medicind (MEJM) And yes to all or your "does it"... loosing weight in general does all this. Again im not saying just the surgery is the answer, exercise is import ans well as a good died. Like I said many times here people rairly loose 100+ lbs and keep it off.... if a surgery helps them keep it off than their life will be better long term. People need to remeber obesity related deaths are the #1 killer in the US...

 

[Capt. Nemo]

My wife had it done. She has made half-hearted attempts at weight loss through diet and exercise, without any results. She has a heart defect which does not allow her to exercise moderately for any period of time without facing about a three day recovery process. She has not seen a significant weight loss through the band. She's also an insulin dependent diabetic (since she was 17).

When we met and married, she was 130-140lbs. She ballooned to 230lbs (conservatively) after we got married, and this has been a source of contention and frustration for about 9 of the 12.5 years of marriage. I said for better or worse, and it doesn't get much worse than some of the stuff we've both had to deal with because of her weight.

Any surgery has its risks. The lap-band is relatively low. Gastric by-pass is much riskier.

If you have the surgery with the mindset that it is a supplement to your diet and exercise and overall life style change - it will be successful. If you have the surgery with the mindset that it's going to fix all your problems, save your money.

 

[Darky]

New England Journal of Medicind (MEJM) And yes to all or your "does it"... loosing weight in general does all this. Again im not saying just the surgery is the answer, exercise is import ans well as a good died. Like I said many times here people rairly loose 100+ lbs and keep it off.... if a surgery helps them keep it off than their life will be better long term. People need to remeber obesity related deaths are the #1 killer in the US...

So, what you're saying is that with diet and exercise, this surgery can help you lose weight. Kinda like those crazy diet pills that say they'll make you lose weight in conjunction with diet and exercise? Do you notice that the consistent feature here is diet and exercise? Yes, it will be difficult to lose the weight and keep it off, but it is by far the healthier way to do it.

And no, I don't think your heart will automatically get stronger by getting the lap band. It won't have to work as hard, but it won't get any stronger. As an extreme comparison, look at Lance Armstrong. His heart beats at 40 bpm because it is so strong from his training that that's all it needs to pump blood through his body. He didn't get it that strong just by being skinny. It also won't strengthen your body. I might be fat and out of shape, but I can still overpower people who are thinner than I but don't do the same work I do. I move large heavy things on a regular basis here at work and when horsing around with friends, I still overpower most of them. I just tired faster.

 

[SleeperXJ]

I read a story in the LA Times about this procedure and some of the flake clinics that perform this procedure. Some scary stuff. I'd say if you are set on having this done, research the facility throughly. Best to have this done at an accredited hospital. The times had a follow up story of a guy that had the procedure done at a walk in clinic and he didn't walk out after they were done. Be safe, know your doctor and his/her history.

 

[r33pwrd]

So, what you're saying is that with diet and exercise, this surgery can help you lose weight. Kinda like those crazy diet pills that say they'll make you lose weight in conjunction with diet and exercise? Do you notice that the consistent feature here is diet and exercise? Yes, it will be difficult to lose the weight and keep it off, but it is by far the healthier way to do it.

And no, I don't think your heart will automatically get stronger by getting the lap band. It won't have to work as hard, but it won't get any stronger. As an extreme comparison, look at Lance Armstrong. His heart beats at 40 bpm because it is so strong from his training that that's all it needs to pump blood through his body. He didn't get it that strong just by being skinny. It also won't strengthen your body. I might be fat and out of shape, but I can still overpower people who are thinner than I but don't do the same work I do. I move large heavy things on a regular basis here at work and when horsing around with friends, I still overpower most of them. I just tired faster.

well the surgery forces you to have a better diet... well less consumption. Again im not saying that this is the answer to evrything but for someone who had battled weight for many years and cannot maintain a healthy lifestyle this is a very viable option. Again for someone 100+lbs overweight the potential benifits out weight the risks IMO.

 

[Darky]

It's obvious you had a hard time maintaining a healthy lifestyle if you're 100lbs overweight. That's how you got there. The point is, for the vast majority of Americans, we would be greatly served by learning a little discipline and self-control to actually work at maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Less food does not a better diet make. You'd be healthier eating a full serving of lean steak with a good salad, then you would be eating half a McDonald's double cheeseburger.

 

[r33pwrd]

It's obvious you had a hard time maintaining a healthy lifestyle if you're 100lbs overweight. That's how you got there. The point is, for the vast majority of Americans, we would be greatly served by learning a little discipline and self-control to actually work at maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Less food does not a better diet make. You'd be healthier eating a full serving of lean steak with a good salad, then you would be eating half a McDonald's double cheeseburger.

I do not disagree... but my point is some people struggle to do this and this is to help someone who needs the extra help. To me this is no different that a smoker who uses a drug to help them quite... yes the drug may have side affects and not always work but the risk is worth the reward to most people and if the drug works and you can quite you WILL most likley have a better life.

 

[bigalpha]

You'd be healthier eating a full serving of lean steak with a good salad, then you would be eating half a McDonald's double cheeseburger.

You mean I shouldn't eat that new Double Down from KFC?

Seriously, though, all you need to do is eat healthy. You don't even have to exercise (though that really helps).

 

[RichP]

When my son was bringing over his pit bull, brindy, I was walking her 4 times a day on sat and sun, 1 mile loop, for the first two weeks she was pulling ME up the dam hill in my development, we live on the side of a small mountain, after two weeks I was doing it on my own and within a 2 month period lost about 25 lbs and had to buy new jeans and pants. No diet change and during that 2 week acclimation period we'd both take a 30 min nap after the walk LOL... and that was just brisk walking uphill and downhill. Now that the weather is breaking I'm starting to do the walk every evening after dinner, takes about 30-45 min max including stopping and talking to other neighbors which was about the same as with brindy, she had to stop and meet everyone and some started giving HER treats but none for me

 

[MT Mike]

First off dont listen to the people that know anything about it! Lap band and GP are very different. Lap band is a very safe and effective way to loose weight. People that are not overweight (very overweight) have NO idea how hard loosing the weigh really is and keeping it off. All forms of weight loss surgery have proven to lower the death rate involving Diabetes, cancer, coronary artery disease, ect.

All I can say is take time and research it! most hospitals have free classes you can go to. Unlike some peoples thought above this is very SAFE with a very low death rate and for the most part will make your life much better and longer VS being overweight.

You obviously know very little about lap band surgery. show me more than a few people that have lost 100 lbs natually and kept it off... facts show that people that loose weight naturally gain all the weight back 90% percent of the time. And again it is not dangerous compaired to the affects of being over weight (not talking about someone 50 lbs overweight)

I do agree if you can loose the weight and keep it off natually this is the ideal way to do it but facts show this is not common at all.

OK less than .5 percent of people that undergow lapband surgery will die from it and yes if you remove the band you probably gain the weight back... the idea with the band is you will have it forever (an if you did not know the band is adjustable so if and when your stomach stretches you can "make it small again"! Like I said before in a perfect world you would loose weight naturally but that has been proven that this is not usually a long term fix. Im not one to jump into a surgery by any means but when you look at all the side affects and risks of being 300lbs plus the .5 percent death rate is not that bad

:twak:
Lose
Loose
Example:
An overweight person will only experience loose clothing after they lose weight.

Every time you misuse the word, you lose 50 IQ points. So far, you're around -100.

Your cries of "research the subject" are quite funny, when you can't even use common words correctly.

BTW, the first part of the second line in my signature applies quite handily to people like you.

 

[iluv83vettes]

You mean I shouldn't eat that new Double Down from KFC?

Seriously, though, all you need to do is eat healthy. You don't even have to exercise (though that really helps).

I had one of those on Sunday. I also ran 8 miles on Sunday. So ... I guess that's why I don't think the surgery is the answer.

 

[bigalpha]

I think I ran a combined 8 miles all week last week, does that count?

 

[r33pwrd]

:twak:
Lose
Loose
Example:
An overweight person will only experience loose clothing after they lose weight.

Every time you misuse the word, you lose 50 IQ points. So far, you're around -100.

Your cries of "research the subject" are quite funny, when you can't even use common words correctly.

BTW, the first part of the second line in my signature applies quite handily to people like you.

never claimed to care how I spell on a forum... sorry I have better things to worry about.

 

[joe_peters]

The next person that misspells one single word in any post will be tied in their chairs and forced to watch 72 uninterrupted hours of Idiocracy without the aid of any alcohol or drugs (legal or illegal)!!

 

[kastein]

never claimed to care how I spell on a forum... sorry I have better things to worry about.

You might knot, but we due... how you present yourself matter's alot; how you write online is how you present yourself online. Every time some dunderhead misuse's apostrophe's (extra, not enough, or just plane placed wrong) or swap's homonym's I dye a little inside.

yes, that was all intentional. See how retarded it looks? It hurt to type, so sorry...

 

[bigalpha]

It hurt to read it, too, kastein.