Just watch the repercussions of the Tucson shooting

[87manche]

Making things illegal for everyone is always the answer. Oh wait, how did prohibition go again?
Hell, I am no criminal, and I wouldn't think twice about crossing the state line to buy ammo.

On the bright side, I could shoot 50bmg for the same ammo budget as I have now. might as well make those 50 rounds count.

Of course you might think twice if getting pulled over with ammo in the trunk was a felony.

For all your AB 962 info needs:

http://www.ab962.org/Home.aspx

FWIW the court tossed key parts of it, but for different reasons.

The thumbprint bit got tossed because it was unconstitutional.

The caliber/pistol restrictions got tossed simply because they were too vague, which leaves the door open for the legislature to try again.

 

[Jeepman401]

Your right, I would drive out to another state to get ammo, then keep on driving to find another place to live

 

[Shorty]

Your right, I would drive out to another state to get ammo, then keep on driving to find another place to live

but if every one that could afford to leave did that the state would go bankrupt....... er, never mind.

 

[Jeepman401]

And the problem is?

 

[Shorty]

from this coast? not a damn thingeace:

 

[87manche]

And the problem is?

that all of the liberals would invade another state and fawk that one up too.

see:
Oregon
Washington
Colorado

It's not the state's problem, it's the voters living in the state that elect idiots.

 

[Jeepman401]

Put up a fence

 

[mcantar18c]

Put up a fence

They'd hire some illegals to hop it, and then pay em more to tear it down, and then invite the illegals along with em.

 

[RichP]

that all of the liberals would invade another state and fawk that one up too.

see:
Oregon
Washington
Colorado

It's not the state's problem, it's the voters living in the state that elect idiots.

That's the problem, we get city people out here that bitch about no sidewalks or streetlights and bring in huge numbers of kds, many not their own but relatives kids that they want to get out of the city and it's gang drug problem. Result, we got a gang drug problem imported courtesy of the city trash that they brought with them and 3 new schools that drove taxes up over 900%.
Same with liberals, they move into a good area, totally socialize it, get disgusted and move out and do it all over somewhere else. They are like a plague of locusts who for some reason don't have the ability, attention span or desire to fix what they screw up. Let me qualify that, liberals are incapable of admitting they screwed up and put blame on whoever is handy.

 

[Jeepman401]

Same with liberals, they move into a good area, totally socialize it, get disgusted and move out and do it all over somewhere else. They are like a plague of locusts who for some reason don't have the ability, attention span or desire to fix what they screw up. Let me qualify that, liberals are incapable of admitting they screwed up and put blame on whoever is handy.

Some species of locusts have gone extinct, there may be hope

 

[urban yan]

62,000+ guns disappeared from gunshops in the past 3 years, and that number could be much higher since the ATF inspects less than 20% of gun stores. Oh, and the NRA has no comment on the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012500867.html

 

[RichP]

62,000+ guns disappeared from gunshops in the past 3 years, and that number could be much higher since the ATF inspects less than 20% of gun stores. Oh, and the NRA has no comment on the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012500867.html

Those gunshops need stop storing them on boats which are prone to sinking.

 

[casm]

62,000+ guns disappeared from gunshops in the past 3 years, and that number could be much higher since the ATF inspects less than 20% of gun stores. Oh, and the NRA has no comment on the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012500867.html

From the article:

"More than 62,000 firearms have disappeared from the inventories of licensed U.S. gun dealers in the past three years, according to a study to be released Tuesday by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "

Now there's an unbiased and trustworthy source.

 

[urban yan]

Now there's an unbiased and trustworthy source.

I feel the same about this section.

 

[RichP]

I feel the same about this section.

Gee, wonder how a non government agency gets access to private firearms store records which the ATF only reviews every so many years and reaches this conclusion.

 

[Jeepman401]

62,000+ guns disappeared from gunshops in the past 3 years, and that number could be much higher since the ATF inspects less than 20% of gun stores. Oh, and the NRA has no comment on the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012500867.html

Next time get your information from a reliable source like wikipedia. This article is coming from the same lobbyists that completely made up statistics last year about guns going to mexico illegally, I believe the actual stat was multiplied by 100
Lets run some numbers

An estimated 10,500 compliance inspections were done last year. The agency revokes about 110 licenses a year

that's just slightly over 1% of gun shops with issues, assuming your information is credible.
Now take into account that at least half of those compliance infractions probably have nothing to do with missing firearms.
Now lets assume that every one of that 1% is guilty. That's a hell of a lot better than most crime rates.
Not saying its a good thing, but if these people are already breaking the law, whats a new law going to do?

The Brady Center thinks

Now the author of the article is outright Lying

Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, did not return calls seeking comment.

The NRA typically does not return calls to groups that do nothing but twist their words around and use them against the 2nd amendment.

"Part of the problem is that ATF has been treated as the illegitimate stepchild. They don't have the funding, they don't have the staffing."

Outright lie

Good bye urban, see you in a week when you find some other ridiculous point to bring up.

 

[urban yan]

Next time get your information from a reliable source like wikipedia.

LOL, OMG!!!

 

[Jeepman401]

its more likely to have actual facts than the brady campaign

 

[urban yan]

It seems you want me to substitute one form of skewed data for another.

I read that article and figured any percent of 62,000 is still a rather substantial amount. People in this section cry until they're blue in the face when their government isn't accountable to its people (budget, constitution, etc...) yet they pay little attention when the guns they care-about make it into the hands of nutjobs or shady folks via shady gun shop owners.

Is accountability such a radical a thought, or did my comments stir up the hornet's nest again?

 

[XJEEPER]

I feel the same about this section.

I feel the same about a certain Polish/Canadian with an affinity for Socialism, compounded by an acute case of Freedom envy. atriot: