Just watch the repercussions of the Tucson shooting

[Darky]

What I find to be rather disturbing is that with AZ's lenient gun regs and open carry law. If someone had been taking advantage of this right, he may have been stopped sooner.

 

[karstic]

What I find to be rather disturbing is that with AZ's lenient gun regs and open carry law. If someone had been taking advantage of this right, he may have been stopped sooner.

or caused more injuries and casualties.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_17109372?source=commented-news

An interesting perspective from an armed citizen at the shooting.

 

[Jeepman401]

Whats interesting is the spin put on it by the media. The guy did the right thing, he assessed the situation, and decided on the best course of action. He was not there when the shooting began, and came upon the scene after it began. If he had been in the crowd when the shooting began, he would have had a clear target, not the confusion that he ran into.

 

[urban yan]

That's what I thought.......

Wait. You think? I thought you just regurgitate.

or caused more injuries and casualties.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_17109372?source=commented-news

An interesting perspective from an armed citizen at the shooting.

Joe Zamudio was on CNN last week. He struck me as an exceptionally well composed individual; most people would be lucky to share his temperament.... and Joe nearly shot the wrong guy.

I'm not saying Joe shouldn't have a gun. However, it worries me that people with less composure are encouraged -- by gun supporters -- to be put in Joe's situation. Training helps, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not everyone's trainable.

 

[kastein]

Training helps, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not everyone's trainable.

Couldn't agree more, heck we have a whole thread dedicated to them.

I still think everyone having guns is better than just the wackos and criminals having guns. It evens the odds a bit.

 

[Milford Cubicle II]

or caused more injuries and casualties.

Wow you mean you shouldn't just start popping off rounds when you see someone with a gun?? :gee:

I'm a firm believer that not everyone has any business being armed all the time. However, this guy clearly is - as demonstrated by the responsibility and good judgment that he showed.

 

[XJEEPER]

Joe Zamudio was on CNN last week. He struck me as an exceptionally well composed individual; most people would be lucky to share his temperament.... and Joe nearly shot the wrong guy.

I'm not saying Joe shouldn't have a gun. However, it worries me that people with less composure are encouraged -- by gun supporters -- to be put in Joe's situation. Training helps, but let's be honest with ourselves. Not everyone's trainable.

"Pray you never have to use it, but be prepared to use it if you have to."

"As Zamudio ran toward the shooter, he recognized the Glock 19 in the older man's hand and noticed a key detail: It was in the process of being reloaded and not ready to use."

An observant, armed citizen with no formal training reacted to a situation and helped apprehend the shooter without having to fire his weapon…..spin it as a negative all you want with “what if’s”….. I see only positive outcomes here.

(P.S. Still waiting for you to produce any factual data to back up your comments regarding small government and mental health)

 

[XJEEPER]

Got Nuts?

Eric Fuller arrested on Saturday after death threat.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/15/20110115gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-tucson-forum.html#ixzz1B9HJHXxP

 

[old_man]

All the anger and hot heads are Conservatives, right? :huh:

 

[Jeepman401]

One member of the audience who identified with the tea-party movement stood up and said debate over the shooting's political and gun-law implications should be delayed until emotions settle down

Its the truth

 

[ECKSJAY]

Got Nuts?

Eric Fuller arrested on Saturday after death threat.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/15/20110115gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-tucson-forum.html#ixzz1B9HJHXxP

Fuller, who works as a signature collector for political initiatives, was about 10 to 15 feet away from Giffords, talking to her volunteers, when the shots erupted on Jan. 8. He said earlier this week he was hit by a bullet when he dove to the ground to play dead. He decided that because he didn't have any medical training to help others, he walked to his car and drove himself to the nearest hospital.

I lol'd. What a sackless turd.

 

[Jeepman401]

Shot in the knee, yet he walked to his car. Clearly he was too injured to do any good.
Think he stopped at home for a change of panties on the way?

 

[urban yan]

hmmm. I wonder how events would-have turned out if fuller had a gun when the shooting took place.... or if he had a gun at the Town Hall meeting.

 

[Milford Cubicle II]

Same old argument gun control retards have been using for decades and it's no less dumb right now coming from you.

 

[Jeepman401]

hmmm. I wonder how events would-have turned out if fuller had a gun when the shooting took place.... or if he had a gun at the Town Hall meeting.

If he had a gun, that would probably mean that he was a different person altogether. But lets say that he did, he would still be the coward that hid form danger. People seem to think that the shooter emptied his magazine and that was it, but he was reloading. It took brave people to stand up to him and stop him. They are the reason it was not 15 dead and 30 injured.

As for if he had a gun at the town hall meeting? think about that, he made a death threat to someone who spoke out saying that the discussion on gun control should wait until the emotions had settled. Clearly his outburst shows that he is the type to come out with guns blazing. Not only did he make the speakers point, but he showed his gun grabbing hand. But your right, he clearly would have pulled a gun and shot someone for speaking out for guns :roflmao:

 

[urban yan]

I wouldn't let a drunk drive a car; by the same token, I don't want to see guns in the hands of emotionally unstable people. Does that mean I'm against cars and guns?

Since a few of you are slow on the uptake. My answer's no; no I'm not.

 

[Jeepman401]

Asking if the libtard would use a gun if he had it is like asking if George Washington would have nuked the british if he had nukes. It was never a possibility, so its pointless to wonder.

Emotionally unstable people shouldn't have guns, but how does that translate into nobody should have guns?

 

[Milford Cubicle II]

I wouldn't let a drunk drive a car; by the same token, I don't want to see guns in the hands of emotionally unstable people. Does that mean I'm against cars and guns?

Since a few of you are slow on the uptake. My answer's no; no I'm not.

So do you seriously think it's feasible to be able to determine who is mentally healthy enough to have guns and also determine when a once mentally stable individual is no longer fit to have guns?

I'd like to see how that could be done.

The only other option is to ban everyone from having guns (which of course won't stop many from having them anyways) or to allow everyone to have guns with a few "feasible" exceptions like violent criminals.

So which are you arguing for?

 

[urban yan]

Wow, look at the two of you... working as a tag team. The spirit of cooperation might be dead in the senate, but it's nice to see you two lovebirds keeping the fire burning nice and strong.
Anyways, not to worry, I have five carefully thought-out ideas that might help reduce gun crimes caused by mentally unstable individuals:

1) Time machines.

2) You have to meet certain criteria before you're allowed many of life's privileges. You need to pass a test to get your driver's license, you need to take an SAT to assess your readiness for college, heck you even need to be a certain age to buy smokes, booze, or porn mags. Our lives are intruded upon continually to validate our claim to such privileges. By the same reasoning, maybe a gun license should include a psych eval ...that's also renewable along with your gun license renewal. The process could be managed via some non-profit organization (like SATs), and I'm sure the evaluation could be drafted into a quick, minimally intrusive format. It wouldn't eliminate all mentally related gun crimes, but it might just put a dent in them.

3) If that idea doesn't appeal to you than you may like this one. From now on all guns will be sold permanently welded onto cars. It's hard to pull a gun into a crowd when it's welded to a car, and it's easy to spot a nutjob coming at you with their car/gun..... it's kinda similar to the movie near and dear to many of your tiny little hearts - Death Race 3000.

4) Those who found the afore mentioned movie, Death Race 3000, mentally stimulating can't have a gun.

5) If you didn't like any of my previous ideas than you can always use that time machine I mentioned earlier to go back, and remind yourselves not to read my comments. It will save you he drama of feeling humiliated by yours truly. And oh yeah, don't forget to kill John Conner while you're at it.

 

[kastein]

3) If that idea doesn't appeal to you than you may like this one. From now on all guns will be sold permanently welded onto cars. It's hard to pull a gun into a crowd when it's welded to a car, and it's easy to spot a nutjob coming at you with their car/gun..... it's kinda similar to the movie near and dear to many of your tiny little hearts - Death Race 3000.

we're going to have to make angle grinders and sawzalls illegal too now, look what you started

this will also make attacks by senile retirees plowing into street markets far more lethal.