Just watch the repercussions of the Tucson shooting

[kastein]

I still CANNOT believe that they are still in existence.

At their last hate-in, someone slashed the tires on their minivan and they couldn't find anyone to tow it. So they had to drive it around town on flats trying to find someone who would sell them tires. They got turned down by everyone except walmart.

They pretty much are real-life trolls and attention whores though. If people refused to give them any attention and did not make their insipid hateful protesting into news they would have gone back to hating everyone from inside their "church" years ago.

 

[urban yan]

:roflmao:
That was one of the dumbest thing's I've read in quite a while.

I think you just superseded it.


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[XJEEPER]

I think you just superseded it.


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Speaking of Socialist Trolls.....Urban for the win! atriot:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../01/11/AR2011011106068.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

 

[souske]

better not shop here anymore:

 

[Boatwrench]

They got turned down by everyone except walmart.

Thanks for giving me another reason to avoid Wal-Mart.

 

[Boatwrench]

better not shop here anymore:

and here also.

 

[XJEEPER]

"He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right."

One one former close friend of Loughner’s said he went from a stable high school student to a violent, self-medicated “monster” after his girlfriend dumped him during his junior year of high school.

Zachary Osler said that Loughner, who would walk around with his jaw and fist clenched, spent “excessive amounts of money” on drugs.
Osler said Loughner consumed marijuana, cocaine, psilocybin mushrooms and the hallucigenic salvia.

“There was no political motive in this, [Jared] was just angry at the world,” he said.

The US Constitution is being used for toilet paper, specifically our Rights outlined in the 1st and 2nd Amendments. The Socialist movement is no longer hiding their agendas, but seizing any and all opportunities to press forward, exploiting any event to promote support for their ideology.

Recognize their motives and how they completely ignore or twist the facts to promote thier agendas.

 

[CherBear]

Congratulations on your nomination.

:doh:

 

[old_man]

The sheriff that was spouting the political BS might be trying to deflect critisism of his department. They had multiple run ins with this guy from what I have read and they didn't ever bother to put him on a 24 hr psycho evaluation hold. From what I have also read, it is easy to do in AZ.

The college did the same thing, even though they had 5 run ins with him and internally determined him to be unstable. They could have done the hold just as easy. In this day and age, I would be surprised if the college didn't get sued and maybe the sheriffs department as well.

 

[urban yan]

Speaking of Socialist Trolls.....Urban for the win! atriot:

It's a shame people chose to ignore my 4th point regarding the difficulties stopping crazy from doing crazy things in favor of more "socialist" rhetoric, and name-calling.

 

[kastein]

It's a shame people chose to ignore my 4th point regarding the difficulties stopping crazy from doing crazy things in favor of more "socialist" rhetoric, and name-calling.

hey now.

Get back under the bed with the rest of the reds, commies, socialists, and pinkos!

How would you suggest stopping crazy people from doing crazy things? I agree that it needs to be done, but I'm not sure how to do it without encroaching upon what I consider to be inviolable civil rights and liberties.

 

[urban yan]

How would you suggest stopping crazy people from doing crazy things? I agree that it needs to be done, but I'm not sure how to do it without encroaching upon what I consider to be inviolable civil rights and liberties

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Time machines.

 

[Sniggs]

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Time machines.

A novel idea!

 

[ECKSJAY]

A novel idea!

Serious shit.

 

[XJEEPER]

It's a shame people chose to ignore my 4th point regarding the difficulties stopping crazy from doing crazy things in favor of more "socialist" rhetoric, and name-calling.

urban yan: Forth, READ, I'm not saying Jared Loughner was directly inspired by right-wing rhetoric. He was
crazy, and crazy people will always find a way to do crazy things. Having said that, it's interesting
to note the right wing's in favor of small government.. and small government results in cuts to
mental health programs.

I guess I confused your point with the political undertones.....dude, passive/agressive much?

I know your position on socialized healthcare and support for Obamacare, unless it has change recently, if so, please clarify and I will stand corrected.

Please provide statistical data to support your implications that smaller government = more crazy people wandering around shooting people.

 

[bigalpha]

Please provide statistical data to support your implications that smaller government = more crazy people wandering around shooting people.

That's not what he said at all.

 

[bjoehandley]

How would you suggest stopping crazy people from doing crazy things? I agree that it needs to be done, but I'm not sure how to do it without encroaching upon what I consider to be inviolable civil rights and liberties.

I don't think you can to be honest. It does sound like his folks knew he was bonkers, but since he was an adult, I don't know if they legally could have had him involuntarily committed. This situation might convince people to rethink that as family of a person in that state as well as state and federal laws pertaining to such actions. I do think that there needs to be some sort of medical review of people in those situations so they don't get institutionalized for being "difficult", or some sort of BS excuse.

 

[bjoehandley]

I guess I confused your point with the political undertones.....dude, passive/agressive much?

I know your position on socialized healthcare and support for Obamacare, unless it has change recently, if so, please clarify and I will stand corrected.

Please provide statistical data to support your implications that smaller government = more crazy people wandering around shooting people.

Well he was probably refering to a situation like this;

If somebody like the shooter had been institutionalized prior to a comparable violent act, but then had the funding for the facility cut under the guise of "smaller government" or an insurer deciding that his care is cutting into their profits and dropping his coverage with no other way of paying for his continued care, allowing him to be turned loose on an unsuspecting public could theoretically allow a shooting or comparable violent act to happen.

 

[Milford Cubicle II]

That's not what he said at all.

...it's interesting to note the right wing's in favor of small government.. and small government results in cuts to mental health programs.

What he said: The "right wing" would like their to be smaller government which would mean that there would be lesser "mental health programs."

As if that would have stopped Laughner, get real :sure:

What he implied: The "right wing" having power would result in more crazies like Laughner doing crazy things like shooting people.

So yea, you're totally right he didn't say anything like that at all

 

[WAM174]

There aren't solutions to every problem. There are millions of people in the US with some form of mental illness. Fewer than 1% will turn violent. No one is smart enough to identify each of those people until after they've acted.

We can't afford to lock up everybody we think exhibits problems. And it wouldn't be fair to the non-violent. Besides,we'd lose more than a few Jeepers that way.

If we had no access to guns, that would help the crazies situation. But it will never happen, so is not a potential solution. Anyone who thinks otherwise is detached from reality. Lock him up...might be dangerous.