Israel, palestine, hezbolla

[RichP]

I gotta wonder, how can all these 'innocent' civilians over there not be shooting these hezbolla rocket teams. I know if some group came into my back yard and setup a rocket or two that I KNEW was going to draw IDF 155 rounds down on my ass I'd be shooting the bastards as fast as my AK would fire and if it was in my neighborhood I'd be helping my neighbor too....wtf is up with those people...

 

[BRIANHO13]

Well stated.

 

[Lawn Cher']

If the rest of Lebanon is anything like Ramsey, they are a bunch of XXXXXXs.

 

[red91]

Isreal has the right to self defense.

BUT...Lebanon should have gotten rid of, or kicked Hezbollah, and Hamas out of their country. I'm sure Syria or Iran would have gladly taken them in, but they use Lebanon as a pawn so they don't get their "hands dirty."

It is disconcerting that they can operate inside that country with impunity, but if their leaders will do nothing about them being there...are innocents going to risk the retribution their familes would face if they were confronted outside of Government circles?

 

[5-90]

When I think of nations sponsoring terrorism, three words come inescapably to mind...

"Radioactive Parking Lot."

I, frankly, don't care about "innocent civilians" in that conflict anymore. Like I said, if they had issue with it, they'd take out the rocket teams and such as they set up - they're certainly well-armed.

Maybe that puts you in line for retribution, but someone's got to send the message - and if it's a choice between misregistered artillery fire or aimed small arms, at least I did something to merit the small arms fire. Dead is dead - but if I'm going to get killed, I'd prefer to "earn" it.

Call me cranky, but if you're not doing anything to eliminate a known threat to you, your complicity is implicit, and you don't have any bitching rights anymore.

DO SOMETHING! Or we'll do it for you, and you WON'T like it...

5-90

 

[IXNAYXJ]

Isreal has the right to self defense.

Amen!

-----Matt-----

 

[cracker]

I wish they would give the three soldiers back to Isreal so we can end all this bloodshed.

Unfortunately I am living in a cloud

 

[red91]

Amen!

-----Matt-----

Thanks for the new BACKGROUND!!

Israel...not taking any shit since 1948....

oh...and they bombed the Airport so that more IRANIAN rockets couldn't be flow in..

 

[the1jzahn]

That picture is cool. And I agree that Israel needs to end Hezbollah, even when they do get their troops back. Why let them stand when we all know they will just do the same thing in a few years?

 

[Ramsey]

Its amazing how ignorant you people really are.

I wish they would give the three soldiers back to Isreal so we can end all this bloodshed.

Unfortunately I am living in a cloud

You must be the only person here with any sense and decency.

 

[goodburbon]

I think a more recent pic would have ordinance, unless he just got back from lebanon.

 

[GSequoia]

but if you're not doing anything to eliminate a known threat to you, your complicity is implicit, and you don't have any bitching rights anymore.

So you feel this way.

They feel the same way (you're not stopping the "evils" our government is doing therefore you can die).

So who has the moral high ground?

 

[Ironmen77]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=2002\08\04\story_4-8-2002_pg1_6

Hope Bill is still available.

 

[ECKSJAY]

I think a more recent pic would have ordinance, unless he just got back from lebanon.

There is no 'i' in 'ordnance', the word you tried to use.

 

[Ramsey]

When I think of nations sponsoring terrorism, three words come inescapably to mind...

"Radioactive Parking Lot."

I, frankly, don't care about "innocent civilians" in that conflict anymore. Like I said, if they had issue with it, they'd take out the rocket teams and such as they set up - they're certainly well-armed.

Maybe that puts you in line for retribution, but someone's got to send the message - and if it's a choice between misregistered artillery fire or aimed small arms, at least I did something to merit the small arms fire. Dead is dead - but if I'm going to get killed, I'd prefer to "earn" it.

Call me cranky, but if you're not doing anything to eliminate a known threat to you, your complicity is implicit, and you don't have any bitching rights anymore.

DO SOMETHING! Or we'll do it for you, and you WON'T like it...

5-90

Your a moron. Children being killed doesnt matter to you? I can assure you it is not as simple as people just deciding, oh we dont want the militant shite group here anymore lets go give them the boot. If you think Lebanon is "sponsoring" a terrorist group, you are VERY misinformed. Nearly everyone but this country can see Israel is in the wrong, when will this country understand. Hezbollah should certainly stop firing rockets, its a vain attempt to accomplish whatever the hell they are doing. All it is accomplishing, is the destruction of Lebanon. RIP Lebanon, the once Beautiful country.

 

[5-90]

Moron? Hardly - but I have spent enough of my life hunting terrorists down and killing them in their dens to understand the problem - and if "we" have to keep doing it, "innocent" people are going to keep getting killed. Not all counterterror operations are going to be surgical - and artillery NEVER has surgical precision.

And I'm not saying this because it's Israel lobbing the shells - terrorists also operate in Germany (Baader-Meinhof Gangs) and Italy (The Red Brigades) - with little to no interest in what Americans are doing. Ditto the IRA, the Provo Wing, and other assorted groups trying to keep the idea of "A Protestant Ireland" from happening. That's why we have units like GSG-9, the Carbineri, SAS, SBS, 14 Company, and a whole load of others - including our own SFOD-Delta and SEAL Team SIX. All are dedicated to the idea of ridding the world of terrorists wherever they can be found, and all of them know how to play in the same sandbox - which is handy if someone needs help!

No, I have this opinion because 1) Hezbolla are no less terrorists than Islamic Jihad, Al Qaida, or the IRA; and 2) People who allow terrorists to operate in their area should bloody well by now KNOW that something's going to land on their heads in short order. Might as well take care of the tangos before the rain begins to fall... Gawd help them if they start to operate anywhere near men - you'll end up finding a bunch of tangos with slit throads and collapsed skulls... Gunshots can be far too noisy sometimes...

5-90

 

[aroncull]

Your a moron. Children being killed doesnt matter to you? I can assure you it is not as simple as people just deciding, oh we dont want the militant shite group here anymore lets go give them the boot. If you think Lebanon is "sponsoring" a terrorist group, you are VERY misinformed. Nearly everyone but this country can see Israel is in the wrong, when will this country understand. Hezbollah should certainly stop firing rockets, its a vain attempt to accomplish whatever the hell they are doing. All it is accomplishing, is the destruction of Lebanon. RIP Lebanon, the once Beautiful country.

Hmm Dude your Rude and If you think that starting a statement with "Your a moron" is going to give your post or comments any lasting validity then you are wrong.. if you would like to get an idea across successfully then dont be so rude about it. even if your country is currently bieng bombed!

ok... my thoughts on the whole thing....

Its about time Israel got a chance to kick some A$$ Woooo Hoooo
I watched the Hezbolla TV guy on Larry tonight and was totally offended by his utter lies and sickness, bile and crap he spoke.
Also felt the same way about the syrian figure head woman, talking about the help that Hezies get from syria or the weapons and transporting.. LIES LIES LIES!!!!!
Total utter lies..

ok so yeah i want Hamas and Hezbolla to all be killed and or imprisoned.. thats a start.. but just like every where in the world there are the regular people, the villages, children, old ladies.. they die! WAR sucks, look at Berlin at the end of WWII, or any of the destruction of the other "modern, Industrial age wars".

I believe that in a sense, IT IS as simple as the people banding together to shake out the militant shiite's if they dont well.. again they will kill and be killed. They are guilty in there complacency [Lebonese people] the children are the real losers and are in any conflict... thats a given...

Innocents AND the guilty will die... Conflict sucks.. but in this one.. I am all for Israel GO GET EM!!!

BTW Hate the way the Hezbola guy wouldnt even call Israel by its name, calling it the occupied Palistine.. HISTORY PEOPLE! LOOK AT THE HISTORY! SICK totally sick..

Oh and GO 5-90!!

Anyways i hope they show the ground war stuff on TV,
Love the Merkava's;

 

[Ramsey]

I'm not arguing what hezbollah is doing as right, just what the "zionist regime" is doing is wrong. If you dont think that is so, you need a reality check. You'd be singing a different tune if your family was being bombed, and not telling them tough, they should have taken care of the problem earlier.

 

[919Chief]

I'm not arguing what hezbollah is doing as right, just what the "zionist regime" is doing is wrong. If you dont think that is so, you need a reality check. You'd be singing a different tune if your family was being bombed, and not telling them tough, they should have taken care of the problem earlier.

So they are wrong for defending themselves?

Isreal pulled out of Lebanon several years ago and left them to thier own devices. The people there had a chance to grow, prosper and become a great place.

They chose the other path, to allow Hezbollah to operate freely within thier borders and attack Isreal. Even elected Hezbollah to 14 seats in parliment.

Well, you poke a stick at a big dog long enough and he is going to bite back, and when that big dog is biting terrorists, I like it.

You see, despite claims of many there is only a certain amount of manpower and money that the islamo-fascist bunch who want the USA and Isreal destroyed have to expend. And right now we are consuming thier resources in Iraq, and now Isreal is getting ready to consume a whole lot more of Syria and Irans resources.

Better in thier backyard than ours.

And yes, peoples homes are getting destroyed and people not involved get killed. That happens in war, always has, always will. But one side does its best to hit military/government targets, while the other has no problem killing and trageting civilians as well.... or even hiding behind its own civilians.

If you think both sides are equal, your eyes are closed either by ignorance or hatred.

 

[ECKSJAY]

And yes, peoples homes are getting destroyed and people not involved get killed. That happens in war, always has, always will. But one side does its best to hit military/government targets, while the other has no problem killing and trageting civilians as well.... or even hiding behind its own civilians.

Has this ever happened to you or your family?

If you think both sides are equal, your eyes are closed either by ignorance or hatred.

Don't rule out 'personal experience' from that list of possibilities.