Is theis the place to bitch/vent????

Fore Wheeler

Fore Wheeler

MWC President
NAXJA Member
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Michigan
I'm freakin pissed.

went to have my tires removed from my wheels to put them on my beadlocks and they ended up slicing both tires that I had them do, they said, well they'll still seal, I told them not with the beadlock and certainly not at 4 to 6 psi. They won't stand behind them, I need tires for badlands the 15th and I don't have the extra cash right now to get them. Gimme my shot gun and look for me on the news!!!!

WTF??????????





J/K on the gun thing.
 
Let me get this straight. You went to a tire shop, had them dismount two tires in order to remount them onto some beadlocks. During the process they sliced both of the tires?

What tool were they using that sliced the tires? Do they not know how to use the tire dismount machine properly?

Using a shotgun is perfectly justified in this case. I think there is a loophole in the law somewhere that says if a tire shop slices two of your tires, and then doesn't cover them, it is okay to shoot them with a shotgun.
 
yep, that's what happened.

it was the bead that was sliced which will not allow the the bead to seal on the lock.

I just put a call into the owner of the shop, he's to call me back. The only reason I do business with him is cuz he's local and I also have a local small business, I'll pay more for a product (not too much more) to keep my $$$ local than go to a big town and give my money to someone in another state. That'll learn me.


Fore "settin by the phone" Wheeler
 
Damn man, that's a kick in the nuts. Some people are just ignorant. Hope everything works out for you. How many shells does your shotgun hold.:D
 
Does anyone regulate tire shops in your state? A sliced tire bead is a safety issue. I'd call your DMV if the shop owner isn't willing to step up to the plate.

Call the tire manufacturer, get them to send you something in writing that sliced beads are unsafe, buy replacements, and then take the shop to small claims court to recover the cost, using the letter from the manufacturer as proof that you were done dirty.
 
the problem with going at it throught the courts is that I live/own a business in the same small town and the politics wouldn't have a good end result, even if I were in the right. The tires are only $186/ea so I guess I'll just wait till he gets back with me to see if he'll work with me.

Worse case, I have some 38's to put on my MJ trailer, even if I have to use a tube.
 
why am I detecting some kind of tone like you are interested in "protecting" THEIR best interest?

fawk that whole small town brother hood philosophy you are using to answer eagles question, and get the issue SOLVED.

what if I came over to your house and rapped on the side of your tires with a pneumatic roofing nailer? I think you'd be taking the new tires out of my dead carcass wouldn't you?

do not pay a dime out of your own pocket for their "installation accidents"
 
I understand the politics of a small town. If the owner does, he will work with you on this. If he won't work with you, then you need to take action, Eagle has the right idea. Who knows, it is possable others have had problems and don't want to say anything.


Rev
 
just off the phone...

he wants me to bring the tires back to him, he said there is a guy that does 'vulcanizing' repairs (what ever the fawk that is, sounds too Mr Spock to me) and he would see what he thinks, if the guy that does the repairs thinks it's a no go, he's buying me two new tires, hopefully 4wd parts have them in stock in their Indy store so shipping won't take a week, this guy can't get Interco's.

Is anyone fimiliar with this type of repair??? should I just push for new tires? I'll take pics of the problem area and post in a few minutes.
 
A "repaired" tire, is never as good as a new one. The tires were not dammaged before you walked in that place, now they are = new tires.

If I was on the phone with the guy and I even heard the word "repair" I would have flipped.

Get you some new tires man.
 
phat, forewheeler must still be in a state of shock....he's not thinking too straight.

if that shit happened to me, I'd be on the other side of the counter breaking the law
 
Warning limited knowledge ahead:

If I recall they use new rubber and heat it to form "new" tire material in the damaged area....supposed to be good as new when done. Never seen it done, just what I have read about it.

If I would accept this our not depends on a few things..age of tires, remaining tread life, condition of tread, attitude of shop owner.

You are there...not us....for us to tell you what we would do is unfair to you and us.


Rev
 
That is B.S. call them every day and ask them when they are going to fix the f**k up! Go to the shop and make it known that they were wrong and you need some satisfaction. The more people around the better. Don't be a dick, just be firm and do not take no for an answer.
 
Beezil said:
phat, forewheeler must still be in a state of shock....he's not thinking too straight.

if that shit happened to me, I'd be on the other side of the counter breaking the law
Click to expand...


Personally, I think he's just a nice guy, and honestly, the world needs a few more people like this. However...

... I'd be right there with you over the counter breaking the law :D

When it comes to stuff like this, I just get ruthless I guess.

I got in a fender bender once, and got the other insurance company to buy be 4 brand new tires because "I had slid for 2 feet with my brakes locked up causing flat spots". Try to work that one :cool: :D
 
I grew up working in various areas of automotive repair, including truck tire shops, as well as car/pick-up truck tire shops. Of course, we also did tire "truing/grinding" too, if that is any indication of how long ago that was. :D

Tearing the bead a little bit is common if not enough lube was used, and the tire was not pushed down far enough on the opposite side of the tool. The tear not only *can* make it leak a bit on the bead, it also tears the chords in the bead area.

We saw a fair bit of it, sometimes more common with certain types of rim designs. Sometime we refused to change tires on certain rim types due to this. Other types of rim had to have the tire chaged upside down, so to speak..... it all depends on the rim.

These days, tire changing machines are getting more, and more powerful, and that leads to a greater chance of ripping the tire.

Many places will not say/do anything if the bead area rips, but the tire still seals. If you are aware that it happend, do not accept it. Even if it does not leak initially, the tire can still leak internaly over time. This *may or may not* show up as a sidewall bubble or bulge. Even worse, lead to seperation.

You brought in servicable tires. They chose to accept the task. They and their machine compromised your tires. Plain and simple, IMHO they are responsible to make it right. No other way around it.

Vulcanizing may seal the tire, but it will not repair the chords that are now torn.

Just my humble opinion. Good luck.
Glenn
 
here's what I have...


815tire-med.jpg



815tire1-med.jpg



my life sucks this week, I should have mailed that fukin chain letter out that promised bad luck if I didn't.
 
They removed/installed it too dry, judging from the pics. Tire lube would have left visible stains if it was slathered around.

I still stand by my original post..... you brought in healthy tires. You take home healthy tires. They ripped that part of the bead... they need to review their training procedures.
Glenn
 
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