Hand throttle, ? for the 5spd guys

[ChuckD]

I priced most of the bicycle parts and it does come out around $20, The thing is RE's is only $30, is RE's any good? Does it come with actual instructions?

 

[FatXJ]

You are the best! Thank you! I whole heartedly agree that I am a mechanic.

Hell I have to trouble shoot stuff without a fancy code reader scanner thingy and yes I have some problems but for the most part I can figure it out on my own. So tests aside I am a mechanic according to you.

Man to think you thought I wasn't a mechanic.:twak:

So your definition of a mechanic is somebody who can identify troubleshoot and fix a problem. Yet thousands of real mechanics like yourself everyday do routine maintenance and repairs which require nothing but a basic idea of what's wrong. Maybe you would like to think that a mechanic is bettter than simple stupid repairs but that's what the business is. The fact is most people can't do a brake job, rotate tires, change their oil, or even put air in their tires. It's a sad world we live in but you and I fill the same need which is repair. Sometimes we get the lucky "I don't know" response and we get to do real work but if my hunch is right you have a lot of "here this (insert part here) is broken, fix it."

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say there are mechanics and there are good mechanics and the difference is huge between them. I can find a mechanic by opening the phone book but a good mechanic is harder to find especially these days.

The brake lever I was talking about should run between $5 and $30. The more expensive one being aluminum with fine adjustment of travel. The lower price model has 2 positions for the cable which allows it to be used for both styles of brakes. The shifter that you have was designed back in the 1980's and is no longer used so finding one is sometimes hard. So again the brake lever is just easier to find.

I have never seen anybody have to relocate the cable closer to the pivot point. I was just pointing out that you can do it to troubleshoot the WOT problem if it arises. I have seen at least five people use this method with no problems and I have never seen anybody use a shifter. So from my experience you're solution is less popular.

PS - I like to argue it is fun. I only argue if I think I have a strong point.

 

[notorious DUG]

You are the best! Thank you! I whole heartedly agree that I am a mechanic.

Hell I have to trouble shoot stuff without a fancy code reader scanner thingy and yes I have some problems but for the most part I can figure it out on my own. So tests aside I am a mechanic according to you.

Man to think you thought I wasn't a mechanic.:twak:

So your definition of a mechanic is somebody who can identify troubleshoot and fix a problem. Yet thousands of real mechanics like yourself everyday do routine maintenance and repairs which require nothing but a basic idea of what's wrong. Maybe you would like to think that a mechanic is bettter than simple stupid repairs but that's what the business is. The fact is most people can't do a brake job, rotate tires, change their oil, or even put air in their tires. It's a sad world we live in but you and I fill the same need which is repair. Sometimes we get the lucky "I don't know" response and we get to do real work but if my hunch is right you have a lot of "here this (insert part here) is broken, fix it."

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say there are mechanics and there are good mechanics and the difference is huge between them. I can find a mechanic by opening the phone book but a good mechanic is harder to find especially these days.

The brake lever I was talking about should run between $5 and $30. The more expensive one being aluminum with fine adjustment of travel. The lower price model has 2 positions for the cable which allows it to be used for both styles of brakes. The shifter that you have was designed back in the 1980's and is no longer used so finding one is sometimes hard. So again the brake lever is just easier to find.

I have never seen anybody have to relocate the cable closer to the pivot point. I was just pointing out that you can do it to troubleshoot the WOT problem if it arises. I have seen at least five people use this method with no problems and I have never seen anybody use a shifter. So from my experience you're solution is less popular.

PS - I like to argue it is fun. I only argue if I think I have a strong point.

To me a man who can not change his own oil is not much of a man. Parts changers a re just that, parts changers. So many stealership "mechanics can change brakes all day long but they could never do any serious trouble shooting if their life depended on it. They are not mechanics, they are HACKS. Yeah, the "real" mechanic has to do the bread and butter work but the whoel point is that he can do *more* if he needs to.

Every shop has at least one of those guys, he is the one who figures out the problems for all the other yokels to fix.

I have only seen one or two brake lever hand throttles, must be a regional thing. My way is better, chicks dig it more....I did a servey.

P.S. I hate to argue.

 

[ChuckD]

Well thanks for all the wonderful banter, I am truely impressed with both agruements. I AM NOT A MECHANIC, but I can diagnose my own Jeep.

Anyway, with that said, RE's Hand throttle, I think I read that somebody had it and liked it. Anymone else have any thoguhts on it?

BTW

Use the edit feature to fix your mispelled words, I do it all the time.

 

[SyCo]

Wow, try to find input on hand throttles, and find an argument about what a "real" mechanic is, superb. Can we try to get back on topic please?

Seriously, take this nonsense to PMs or JU. And don't even dare to try to bring me into this debate either.

 

[calvin andrus]

I just bought the rubicon express hand throttle and it works great but all it is is bike parts, the where in packages that said like jone's bike accesories or something........for 30 bucks I got ripped off big time, cheap ass plastic stuff, just make it out of bike parts like others have said and save yourself some money.
-calvin

 

[ChuckD]

Thanks, I figured it was bike parts. Low quality, well off to the bike store, or maybe I'll just use the brake handle from my Mountain bike, I haven't rode that in ages.

 

[Bronco]

Man! You two are like a couple little girls. You should to be ashamed of your Bitchy selves.
That said, I’m thinking that a newer style Shimano sifter may work well, the kind that have a lever for up shifting and another for down. You wouldn’t get the smooth throttle control but it would eliminate over modulating it. Seems like what you lost in precision you would gain in control. I figure one click would give you X RPM’s with no load. Anyone ever tried it.
Also I spend three years working at a bike shop and we would always have a bunch of old stuff lying around that we would be fairly free about giving away or selling for almost nothing. I figure if you are buying the cable (and maybe drooling on some of their bikes) there is a good chance you could get them to throw in a used lever shifter.
For those of you who have used bike parts, how have you handled the difference between a bike handlebar and a Jeep stick shifter? I guess you could shim it all up, but that would look kinda ghetto-fabulous.

 

[ChuckD]

Has anyone thought od using some type of remote, like cut the end of a handlebar (or a piece of round tube), fashion the brake lever or shifter to it.

Also does the XJ have a high idle kick up when you turn on the AC or not?

Here I found one for $15, best of both worlds.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.asp?number=35031

 

[notorious DUG]

Man! You two are like a couple little girls. You should to be ashamed of your Bitchy selves.
That said, I’m thinking that a newer style Shimano sifter may work well, the kind that have a lever for up shifting and another for down. You wouldn’t get the smooth throttle control but it would eliminate over modulating it. Seems like what you lost in precision you would gain in control. I figure one click would give you X RPM’s with no load. Anyone ever tried it.
Also I spend three years working at a bike shop and we would always have a bunch of old stuff lying around that we would be fairly free about giving away or selling for almost nothing. I figure if you are buying the cable (and maybe drooling on some of their bikes) there is a good chance you could get them to throw in a used lever shifter.
For those of you who have used bike parts, how have you handled the difference between a bike handlebar and a Jeep stick shifter? I guess you could shim it all up, but that would look kinda ghetto-fabulous.

You called me a bitch, I really don;t know if I should tell you how I delt with the shifter dia. problem......

Well, OK I will but just this once, be nice from now on.

I use either a rubber bushing with about the correct OD and drill the ID to fit my shifter or I wrap a thin strip of duct tape around the shifter till the OD is close. I only use a thin strip so none shows on either side of the clamp and it does not look completely ghetto.

The bushing looks nicer but is more work.

I belive RE uses the buxhing.

BTW, when did become a bunch of on topic nazis?

facist pigs.

 

[Bronco]

Thanks for the info on the Bushings etc… Any other ideas?

 

[FatXJ]

Has anyone thought od using some type of remote, like cut the end of a handlebar (or a piece of round tube), fashion the brake lever or shifter to it.

Also does the XJ have a high idle kick up when you turn on the AC or not?

Here I found one for $15, best of both worlds.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.asp?number=35031

You don't want that because it has a shifter built into the brake lever. Shitmano as I know it likes to do that so if either one fails you have to buy the whole unit. You could always cut the shifter off I guess. Your choice.

When your at the bike shop ask them for a rubber shim they should have lots of them.

 

[XJ_MAC]

Pics of hand throttle linkage

This is a pic of the large hole electrical connector I placed behind the foot pedal throttle linkage and folded around and soldered to the end of the chain at the end of my hand throttle.

 

[XJ_MAC]

Next

The other end of the chain at te end of the cable.

 

[XJ_MAC]

The entire hookup.

 

[XJ_MAC]

I wrapped the cable in tape to make it stay in the extra cable slot on the valve cover.

 

[macgyvr]

RE

Anyway, with that said, RE's Hand throttle, I think I read that somebody had it and liked it. Anymone else have any thoguhts on it?

I have RE's hand throttle. I bought it about three years ago when it was $20. Since that time a couple of Jeep guys I know have bought parts for about 6-10 bucks at a local bike shop.

And for the record, all I have even seen around here used locally were the gear change shifters that DUG posted a pic of, I know of no one using a brake thingy for a hand throttle.

mac 'only a mechanic when I stay at a holiday inn express the night before' gyvr