Gym etiquette, and a workout question

[Fergie]

First off, the rant:

Why do people sit on their freakin machine while they are resting? get the fluck out of the way, and let others work in, all you are doing is wasting oxygen. Case in point; When I leave my water and towel at the base of the machine after my set, that means I'm getting out of the way for you to use it. Don't sit there and talk with your flabby ass, flap jack booby friend while I stand there and wait....USE THE EQUIPMENT.

Now, the question, and situation. I weigh in at 215 and 6'0". Not a lot of fat, but cant seem to get any definition to my abs or sides, so it kinda just sits there. I have tried all sort of ab exercises, and machines, wit hvery limited effect. I can ffel my muscles getting stronger, but have yet to lose the fat.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Fergie

 

[shimmy]

personal trainer shimmy says: " you only need to 300 situps a workout. use a little weight and variation. everyone has abs underneath their flab, you just need to accomodate some aerobics into your workout." i've been working out for a good six years now, and i have an 8 pack! its all about cardio! i would recommend a fast paced walk with a little incline, if you choose to use a treadmill. otherwise, elliptical machines are the ultimate calorie burner, butt shaper, calf definer.

 

[Cupcake]

DIET is the four letter word that i was always told give it 2 months and they will start to appear mensfitness.com has some good information on what foods are good for you check it out

cupcake

 

[Fergie]

I run 20 minutes at 8 mph, and am walking back and forth from my job trailer to the site all day long, it aint about cardio. My current routing only includes about 75 sit ups.

 

[Cupcake]

try getting a balance ball and do crunches on that it gives a pretty damn good workout

 

[johnlv6]

I run 20 minutes at 8 mph, and am walking back and forth from my job trailer to the site all day long, it aint about cardio. My current routing only includes about 75 sit ups.

Watch the diet and bump up your run. 30+ minutes of cardio (running, eliptical, bike, etc) is the way to go. I'm in crappy shape at the moment...this worked for me once upon a time.

 

[Fergie]

Not so concerned about weight loss, per se, just more definition. Yes, I know these go hand in hand, but I'm not watching the scale for every little pound.

I went from 260 in HS, to 180 in Airborne school, and have been at 215 for about 2 years now. I really just want more definition in my stomach area.

 

[shimmy]

Watch the diet and bump up your run. 30+ minutes of cardio (running, eliptical, bike, etc) is the way to go. I'm in crappy shape at the moment...this worked for me once upon a time.

i agree. at least 30 minutes or more. 20 minutes is not gonna do anything. i do the treadmill for 50 minutes then i hop on the elliptical for another 20-30 minutes.

 

[Fergie]

i agree. at least 30 minutes or more. 20 minutes is not gonna do anything. i do the treadmill for 50 minutes then i hop on the elliptical for another 20-30 minutes.

Frequency?

 

[Roxtar]

My wife is a trainer and a previous fitness competitor.
She says abs are 95% diet.
Crunches will help develope them but you can't build them up enough to show through any amount of fat.
You have to shrink the body into them to see any definition.
Unfortunately, for those of us over 19, that area is usually the first to gain and the last to lose fat.

Oh, and 387X on the etiquette rant.

 

[ECKSJAY]

First off, the rant:

Why do people sit on their freakin machine while they are resting? get the fluck out of the way, and let others work in, all you are doing is wasting oxygen. Case in point; When I leave my water and towel at the base of the machine after my set, that means I'm getting out of the way for you to use it. Don't sit there and talk with your flabby ass, flap jack booby friend while I stand there and wait....USE THE EQUIPMENT.

"Excuse me, (sir or ma'am), are you done with the machine? I'd like to use it if you are."

 

[Fergie]

"Excuse me, (sir or ma'am), are you done with the machine? I'd like to use it if you are."

You would think so.

But alas, these numbnuts around here always have "one more set" when they have been sitting there for a while.

That, or you get the pimply faced bochunks that ask to use the machine when you are in the middle of a set, halfway through a rep.

Freakin retards.

Fergie

 

[Dirt]

I've got a problem at the gym also.

Why is it that the fat,hairy backed, long haired, sweatiest bastard at the gym is the one guy who doesn't wear a shirt on the treadmill. Disgusting.

On your rant though...what can you do? I sit at the machine and rest during my set. I wouldn't do that if someone was obviously working there though.

It's so much better working out before work, now that I work 2nd shift. In the AM is where it's at. There are only about 6-10 people in the weight room and cardio room while I'm there.


Abs are for pretty boys.

 

[Lawn Cher']

Why is it that the fat, hairy backed, no haired, sweatiest bastard at the gym is the one guy who doesn't wear a shirt on the treadmill. Disgusting.

Hey, I resemble that remark. I'll be sure and keep my shirt on around you since you find my physique so repulsive.

(Not that I ever go to the gym anyway.)

 

[XJEEPER]

Sounds like you need to break out of your cycle and take it up a notch to kick your metabolism in gear, which will begin to melt the "extra".

In addition to the workout, eating smaller meals 6 times a day with a balance of good carbs and protein will also help kick your body's metabolism into gear to burn fat. Too often, improper diet while working out will leave you feeling stalled from little visual progress. Also note that the body goes into fat storage mode with most rapid loss diets, so you'll see short term losses, followed by a spiked gain. Remember that balance is needed to see any gains in muscle and loss of fat and have them stay longterm.

As for the machine campers that won't move.....try passing gas and then stand there patiently, awaiting their departure. Eye contact is good too, most guys get uncomfortable when you stare into thier eyes.....or you could just ask them to use it or MOVE IT!!

 

[MuddinJeeper]

try swimming laps. you'll use muscles you never knew you had, plus its killer cardio and easy on your joints. Other than bumping up the cardio to 30-45 mins do a full ab workout with exercises that target each of the core muscle groups at least once. And kill the fast food/fatty foods to once or twice a week. My .02

 

[Fergie]

Pretty much stuck to the cario routine I have now. I can't swim enough due to a shoulder injury, and the risk of damaging the joint more is not worth it.

I dont eat fast food, period, andd do my best to not snack during the day. Limit my soda/beer to a few a week, and stay away from sugar loaded fattty cereals in the morning.

Fergie

 

[MuddinJeeper]

well...you're screwed
Just out of curiosity, what did you do to your shoulder that will allow you to lift, but won't allow you to swim? Does it limit what weight you can lift and your range of motion? I messed up my rotator cuff and a tendon in my shoulder and its just gotten back to normal...from 5 years ago.

 

[Lawn Cher']

Fergie, try more vigorous sex.

 

[Fergie]

well...you're screwed
Just out of curiosity, what did you do to your shoulder that will allow you to lift, but won't allow you to swim? Does it limit what weight you can lift and your range of motion? I messed up my rotator cuff and a tendon in my shoulder and its just gotten back to normal...from 5 years ago.

Cant do much shoulder excerises like the press, or even the fly and such. A bad football accident in college tore three of the muscles on my back that hold the shoulder in. Even if I turn wrong, I'll dislocate my shsoulder, and I have even dislocated it when I was putting on a sweatshirt.

Mark-...with what?? :gee: