Gun Rack?



Its locked in the Glovebox. its not like its sitting on the seat. The Local walmart is gay about guns and i don't feel the need to carry into a bank.
 
Its locked in the Glovebox. its not like its sitting on the seat. The Local walmart is gay about guns and i don't feel the need to carry into a bank.

Do they pat you down on the way in or something? If you're worried about policy then don't shop there. :) The second part...doesn't that defeat the purpose of carrying at all? I mean, I understand not using a car to get from A to B because you like to walk...but...
 
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Do they pat you down on the way in or something? If you're worried about policy then don't shop there. The second part...doesn't that defeat the purpose of carrying at all? I mean, I understand not using a car to get from A to B because you like to walk...but...

No, they don't pat you down, but if you're found to be carrying on private property when it's specifically disallowed, you can get in some pretty hot water with law enforcement. Not to mention you'd probably be banned from the place where you carried. So generally it's not a good idea
 


In some states, such as CT so I'm sure Illinois isn't much different even though you have a permit to carry any private business has the right to have a gun free zone in their business. If his local WalMart is listed as a gun free zone then if he happens to be printing he could be arrested, gun taken and permit revoked. Most banks are also gun free zones. That may be why he is leaving his handgun secured in his vehicle.
The worst part about it here in CT is there is no standard way (list or a sign in the window/door) for a permit holder to know which business they can and cannot carry in.

And yes I know that a "gun free zone" is an oxymoron.
 
No, they don't pat you down, but if you're found to be carrying on private property when it's specifically disallowed, you can get in some pretty hot water with law enforcement. Not to mention you'd probably be banned from the place where you carried. So generally it's not a good idea

Not in WA (and many other places). Private property needs to ask you to leave before you can be considered a trespasser. ;) Even then...they've gotta have a damn good reason to be asking you to leave. On the other hand, you're an idiot if 'Walmart' knows you're carrying a concealed firearm. LE can't just come and get you into 'hot water' simply because you were legally carrying a firearm. Reaching up to the top shelf and exposing part of a holster is vastly different than unholstering your nine and waving it at the other patrons.

Life's tough. Wear a helmet.
 
In some states, such as CT so I'm sure Illinois isn't much different even though you have a permit to carry any private business has the right to have a gun free zone in their business. If his local WalMart is listed as a gun free zone then if he happens to be printing he could be arrested, gun taken and permit revoked. Most banks are also gun free zones. That may be why he is leaving his handgun secured in his vehicle.
The worst part about it here in CT is there is no standard way (list or a sign in the window/door) for a permit holder to know which business they can and cannot carry in.

And yes I know that a "gun free zone" is an oxymoron.

Don't they have to be posted at the door or is there just a list of businesses in the statute? Even in WA State, schools are listed as 'gun free zones' specifically in the state law...with few exceptions. A guy picking up or dropping off his kid can legally carry.

Easiest thing to do in this situation is patronize businesses that support basic rights. Call me silly...
 
Pertaining to Walmart - In my understanding, Walmart as a corporation is gun friendly. If they aren't allowing you to carry, and it's legal in your state, then it's because the store manager doesn't want weapons in the store. You can actually contact Walmart corporate headquarters in regards to the situation, and the manager will be contacted directly. There was a store here in Phx that tried that crap, and it was short lived. I agree also about only patronizing businesses that support and respect our rights as Americans. For example, if I go to a restaurant, and it's posted for no carry, I go eat elsewhere.. It's simple.

On the OP's original topic, why not just fab up a rack to fit your needs? That's what I'm doing as an add-on for my rear storage rack.
 
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No, they don't pat you down, but if you're found to be carrying on private property when it's specifically disallowed, you can get in some pretty hot water with law enforcement. Not to mention you'd probably be banned from the place where you carried. So generally it's not a good idea

Not In Indiana. They'll just ask you to leave. I have only been carrying for a couple months. I'm sure i will eventually get comfortable enough to carry at the bank but I just don't feel like being hassled and in my city I am honestly not that worried about a midday bank robbery. Now when I go to Indy thats a whole different story. I am getting over the carry jitters and when I am walking my dog at night I carry with one in the tube.
 
Probably should have just did a multi quote the first time! :D

In some states, such as CT so I'm sure Illinois isn't much different even though you have a permit to carry any private business has the right to have a gun free zone in their business. If his local WalMart is listed as a gun free zone then if he happens to be printing he could be arrested, gun taken and permit revoked. Most banks are also gun free zones. That may be why he is leaving his handgun secured in his vehicle.
The worst part about it here in CT is there is no standard way (list or a sign in the window/door) for a permit holder to know which business they can and cannot carry in.

And yes I know that a "gun free zone" is an oxymoron.

I am not entirely positive if my bank is gun friendly or not. I just prefer not to carry in there. I know one of the tellers so I will see if she can get me more info.

Don't they have to be posted at the door or is there just a list of businesses in the statute? Even in WA State, schools are listed as 'gun free zones' specifically in the state law...with few exceptions. A guy picking up or dropping off his kid can legally carry.

Easiest thing to do in this situation is patronize businesses that support basic rights. Call me silly...

It varies from state to state. Mainly its schools, government buildings, in some states its state parks, others you can carry in parks. I try to patronize gun friendly places but its hard finding a place that does and if they don't none of them have signs. They are passing a law here and in Kentucky that says as of July 1st a business can't deny their employees the right to have their gun in their LOCKED vehicle while they are working.

Pertaining to Walmart - In my understanding, Walmart as a corporation is gun friendly. If they aren't allowing you to carry, and it's legal in your state, then it's because the store manager doesn't want weapons in the store. You can actually contact Walmart corporate headquarters in regards to the situation, and the manager will be contacted directly. There was a store here in Phx that tried that crap, and it was short lived. I agree also about only patronizing businesses that support and respect our rights as Americans. For example, if I go to a restaurant, and it's posted for no carry, I go eat elsewhere.. It's simple.

On the OP's original topic, why not just fab up a rack to fit your needs? That's what I'm doing as an add-on for my rear storage rack.
Walmart itself is gun friendly. But a lot of guys on the Indiana gun owners forum have been hassled by walmart managers around here, same with Kroger stores.
 
Do they pat you down on the way in or something? If you're worried about policy then don't shop there. :) The second part...doesn't that defeat the purpose of carrying at all? I mean, I understand not using a car to get from A to B because you like to walk...but...

i agree. carrying just to lock it up when you get to white trash ville or the bank is just plain stupid.

Yeah, those places never get knocked off.

NEVER! and no innocent bystanders ever get shot, stabbed or assaulted either!

No, they don't pat you down, but if you're found to be carrying on private property when it's specifically disallowed, you can get in some pretty hot water with law enforcement. Not to mention you'd probably be banned from the place where you carried. So generally it's not a good idea

in MOST places, its just a trespassing violation. you would be asked to leave, issued an 'dont come back' notice and possibly have your picture taken. IF you violate that notice, thats when the cops get involved.

Don't they have to be posted at the door or is there just a list of businesses in the statute? Even in WA State, schools are listed as 'gun free zones' specifically in the state law...with few exceptions. A guy picking up or dropping off his kid can legally carry.

Easiest thing to do in this situation is patronize businesses that support basic rights. Call me silly...

here in AZ it must be posted (although can be quite vague). in business with a liquor license it must be posted next to it. and for the most part, yes in AZ a guy can be carrying and pick his kid up from the school parking lot.

and if a business isnt gun friendly, I DONT SHOP THERE! thats why i havent been to a concert for quite a while. fawking metal detectors at the door...

I am not entirely positive if my bank is gun friendly or not. I just prefer not to carry in there. I know one of the tellers so I will see if she can get me more info.

isnt the whole point of concealed is that no one can see it??

It varies from state to state. Mainly its schools, government buildings, in some states its state parks, others you can carry in parks. I try to patronize gun friendly places but its hard finding a place that does and if they don't none of them have signs. They are passing a law here and in Kentucky that says as of July 1st a business can't deny their employees the right to have their gun in their LOCKED vehicle while they are working.

avoid govt building, schools (varies by area), etc. other than that just keep an eye out for the socialist anti gun signs. then shop some where else

Walmart itself is gun friendly. But a lot of guys on the Indiana gun owners forum have been hassled by walmart managers around here, same with Kroger stores.

report them to corporate.
 
I agree with you but I still have the carry jitters somewhat. My gun is well concealed. I have a kholster iwb holster but you can see my gun if you are paying close attention. I would like to get a smaller carry gun but no funds for that right now.
 
Its locked in the Glovebox. its not like its sitting on the seat. The Local walmart is gay about guns and i don't feel the need to carry into a bank.
Don't leave anything more than your registration, sunglasses, manual, and spare turn signal bulbs in the glovebox, locked or not. That lock is flimsy as hell and can be broken with one hand. How do I know? A thief broke mine and took my digital camera (which I had forgotten I left in there) and GPS unit. I only realized weeks later that the camera was gone as I didn't use it often; I realized the next day that the GPS unit was gone.
 
Don't they have to be posted at the door or is there just a list of businesses in the statute? Even in WA State, schools are listed as 'gun free zones' specifically in the state law...with few exceptions. A guy picking up or dropping off his kid can legally carry.

Easiest thing to do in this situation is patronize businesses that support basic rights. Call me silly...


CT seems to enjoy making laws but never defining them very well so when it comes to firearms, concealed carry and the AWB. The law says that you cannot carry in a private business where it is not permitted by the owner, but never defines how the business has to display that it is not gun friendly. In CT people have been hassled because their handgun showed in public, some police will try to arrest "offenders" for breach of peace if someone reports your gun showing, even if its still in its holster and it was an unintentional flash. CT isn't even a concealed carry state by law, just by practice.

Back on topic. I was considering putting a small box that is meant to go in the back bed of a truck in the back of my XJ when for when I go doorless and want to secure my valuables if I go into a store or class.
 
CT seems to enjoy making laws but never defining them very well so when it comes to firearms, concealed carry and the AWB. The law says that you cannot carry in a private business where it is not permitted by the owner, but never defines how the business has to display that it is not gun friendly. In CT people have been hassled because their handgun showed in public, some police will try to arrest "offenders" for breach of peace if someone reports your gun showing, even if its still in its holster and it was an unintentional flash. CT isn't even a concealed carry state by law, just by practice.
It must be a local thing in ct, I never have had a problem in eastern ct.
I had my xd show in a subway a few weeks ago. the guy in line behind me collapsed (diabetic), and I helped him to a chair. My coad snagged on a table, and it showed, people noticed, and it was no big deal. By the law, the only thing in ct they can even do to you is hit you with causing a public disturbance, and even then they cant make it stick in court, its just a way of making your life miserable if they want to.


back on topic
my long guns go in a locking hard case in the back of my jeep, under a blanket that blends in fairly well with the interior. With the factory tint on the windows, someone passing by in a parking lot wont notice it at all, and you would have to be looking in the window to see that there is anything back there at all. I make it a habit of not leaving them unattended though. If I am traveling with them, I plan ahead and try not to stop anywhere I need to leave the jeep. In camp, the jeep stays locked, the case is locked to the jeep with a cable, and someone is nearby at all times, or if I am up at one of the scout camps for a shooting weekend, it goes in a safe.
 
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Why do you even carry a weapon in normal driving(I carry one on long road trips)?Have you ever drawn a weapon on someone knowing that you or someone else could die here tonight!I have once,it was scarry as hell and dont ever want to go thru that again.I "wasnt" packing,I heard my next door neighbor calling for help.The next thing I knew was in a "draw down",it wasnt a fun moment at all!
 
I have never drawn on anyone. I bet its not a fun time. I don't always carry. Say what you want but I feel safe in my town. So if anyone tells me I am stupid for not carrying all the time, you can go throw the tin foil hat back on. Not everyone is out to get you. If my gun comes out though, I have come to terms with what has to happen.
 
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
fortunately I have never had to draw mine, but I still carry it when I go out most of the time in the colder half of the year. once I pick up a nice snub nose .357, I will have something to carry in the warmer months. I may be a big guy, but a XD .45 is a bit hard to conceal.

as far as long guns, some people hunt on their way to and from work. the gun needs to go somewhere while they are at work.

edit: I do carry most of the time, even in my home town in places I feel completely safe, because I want the gun to feel like it belongs there, and get to a point where I done even notice it.
 
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
fortunately I have never had to draw mine, but I still carry it when I go out most of the time in the colder half of the year. once I pick up a nice snub nose .357, I will have something to carry in the warmer months. I may be a big guy, but a XD .45 is a bit hard to conceal.

as far as long guns, some people hunt on their way to and from work. the gun needs to go somewhere while they are at work.

edit: I do carry most of the time, even in my home town in places I feel completely safe, because I want the gun to feel like it belongs there, and get to a point where I done even notice it.
Yeah my service model XD is hard to conceal but its unnoticable with a sweatshirt on. I will probably get more used to it and carry all the time. For now, I will do it the way I feel comfortable
 
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