does this sound constitutional?

[Wolfe]

If the MAJORITY of the voters choose not to, then tough shit, accept it, or move.

Thats another issue all together how can you expect the average man to have a say when you dont have laws making them?
I know that sounds crazy but, we have compulsory voting, so every person (citizen) must have their chance to make thier opinion count, even if you choose to make an invalid vote. Your system doesnt allow for a true majority of voters, its only a majority of those that could be bothered. Before you flame me, note, I make no judgement as to which is a better system (our is)

I dont know if Im Ape or not. Fox wasnt there to record evolution.

 

[rocklandxjer]

yep, yup, yuup, mmm hmm

 

[lilredwagn]

Also, for chrissake, I can't believe I have to even type this: HUMANS ARE NOT APES OR MONKEYS. Those terms were invented by biologists/naturalists to better categorize what they saw and give meaning to the wide variety of animal instantiation. In other words, there is nothing to say that Apes and Monkeys and Humans derive from the same 'class', 'kingdom', 'category' or otherwise, other than they were pigeon-holed into categories by humans for ease of conceptualization. As anyone with half a brain can see, humans are much more closely related to celery.
Got Grade 10 Biology anyone?

indeed, indeed ..

 

[goodburbon]

Also, for chrissake, I can't believe I have to even type this: HUMANS ARE NOT APES OR MONKEYS. Those terms were invented by biologists/naturalists to better categorize what they saw and give meaning to the wide variety of animal instantiation. In other words, there is nothing to say that Apes and Monkeys and Humans derive from the same 'class', 'kingdom', 'category' or otherwise, other than they were pigeon-holed into categories by humans for ease of conceptualization.

Got Grade 10 Biology anyone?

you mean this?

Human
Eukaryota (Domain)/
Animalia (Kingdom) /
Eumetazoa (Subregnum) /
Bilateria [having bilateral symmetery] /
Deuterostomia (Superphylum) /
Chordate (Phylum) /
Craniata [animals with skulls] /
Vertebrata (Subphylum) [...and backbones] /
Gnathostomata (Infraphylum) [...and jaws] /
Teleostomi [advanced fish and descendants] /
Tetrapoda (Superclass) [...and four limbs] /
Amniota (Series) [...and amniotic eggs] /
Synapsida [mammal-like reptiles] /
Mammaliaformes / Mammalia (Class) [all mammals] /
Eutheria (Subclass) /
Euarchontoglires (Superorder) /
Euarchonta (Superorder) /
Primates (Order) /
Haplorrhini (Suborder) /
Simiiformes (Infraorder) /
Catarrhini (Parvorder) /
Hominoidea (Superfamily) /
Hominidae (Family) /
Homininae (Subfamily) /
Hominini (Tribe) /
Hominina (Subtribe) /
Homo (Genus) / Homo sapiens (Species) / Homo sapiens sapiens (Subspecies)


Chimpanzee

​

Kingdom:
Animalia
Phylum:
Chordata
Class:
Mammalia
Order:
Primates
Family:
Hominidae
Subfamily:
Homininae
Tribe:
Hominini
Subtribe:
Panina


wow, look at that beej we're primates too

10th grade biology anyone

 

[rocklandxjer]

whale

Kingdom:

Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Cetacea


human
Domain: Eukaryota
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates

 

[rocklandxjer]

what are you suggesting

 

[goodburbon]

perhaps we are a little more related than both "animals" as beej suggested.

 

[TRNDRVR]

Just what we need, another religious thread....

 

[rocklandxjer]

he he good point, waaayyy to many of those

 

[Darky]

So killing animals is ok as long as you're nice to them, but screwing them is right out? I know its off of the topic at hand, but why again is it wrong? Most animals don't give each other a choice in the wild, and we are constantly purposely force breeding animals, so that arguement is bogus.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not having intercourse with any animals other than myself and my wife.

You just think Lassie's hot don't you?

The reason behind killing them is for food usually. The reason behind humping them? I haven't a clue.

 

[rocklandxjer]

yea, your point is definately moot.

animals dont give other animals of their species a choice. In our society of evolved and intelecutal creatures, we call that rape.

animals dont force themselves on other animals of other species...

 

[dzolcali]

This thread must die...

Why argue something written so long ago besides the fact the original post has nothing to do with just about anything at all. If you don't like the Preamble of the Constitution of North Carolina, petition your representatives to change it. If the MAJORITY of the voters choose not to, then tough shit, accept it, or move.

Oh... and FAWK political correctness. Being politically correct is turning this country into a bunch of puzzy's! When will people actually stand up for what they truly believe and NOT be afraid to say it?

when the war ends...


but for the other stuff, I believe correct me if this is wrong, but in a nutshell the puritans founded the 13 colonies, who each had their own seperate governments all to get away from the crown rule in England. However more over the founding fathers of "America" the land were actually from South America on up, christopher columbus was much later on the scene than many of the spanish inquisitioners, and the spanish inquisition well..they plundered and raped and murdered tons of the indiginous populations of south america before migrating upwards into the US formerly native american soil.
So anyways, the 13 colonies tried to fight the crown one by one, the crown was too powerful, originally they wanted religious freedom from the crown granted at that time it basically meant they didn't want to go to the kings church or be prosecuted. So they finally banded together to make the "united states" wow isn't that novel they defeated the kings army and won their freedom and decided since things were good they would establish a more perfect union. Enter the founding forefathers of our Federal government. And in regards to that, any state or local law that is not in conformity with the federal laws are rendered powerless...any federal law that is not inline with the constitution is dubbed unconstitutional and therefore has to be changed to be concurrent with the constitution.

Also beej, yes we are our own species, but we are like 2 what chromosome (not sure but I know it's super close) different than apes. apes, leemurs, gorilllas, baboons and a jungle of other species monkeys are all grouped into the same class thus my argument that we are in essence monkeys just smart monkeys.

 

[dzolcali]

You just think Lassie's hot don't you?

The reason behind killing them is for food usually. The reason behind humping them? I haven't a clue.

because it feels good duh?

 

[rocklandxjer]

wrong

most of the colonies were founded by the english by offering free land so that raw materials could be sent back to england. the puritans and pilgrims founded only a small amount of the "New america"

and wrong again. the reason for the declaration of independance was because the american colonists felt that they were being singled out. when really they were just being adapted to the english law.

a lot of what happened back then was our fault. but at least some good came of it.

the colonists did not separate for religious freedom. that was way out of the picture by then. they separated because of money. the britts wanted to keep them as a taxable colony, which they were. and they felt that they deserved more rights, even more than the average brit...

and state laws are not powerless if not mentioned in the constitution. those that contradict the federal law maybe, but not ANY law, thats why some states allow the death penalty and some dont

and no... we are not "smart monkeys" smart monkeys are smart monkeys. we are human. thats like saying a pellican is the same as a swallow. yea there birds, but they arent the same. or that whales and walruses are the same.. no, they are not.

 

[Wolfe]

because it feels good duh?

so you'd hump a donkey cause it would feel good?

 

[Wolfe]

so you'd hump a donkey cause it would feel good?

get a girlfriend

 

[rocklandxjer]

i think THAT was a joke lol

 

[dzolcali]

wrong

most of the colonies were founded by the english by offering free land so that raw materials could be sent back to england. the puritans and pilgrims founded only a small amount of the "New america"

and wrong again. the reason for the declaration of independance was because the american colonists felt that they were being singled out. when really they were just being adapted to the english law.

a lot of what happened back then was our fault. but at least some good came of it.

the colonists did not separate for religious freedom. that was way out of the picture by then. they separated because of money. the britts wanted to keep them as a taxable colony, which they were. and they felt that they deserved more rights, even more than the average brit...

and state laws are not powerless if not mentioned in the constitution. those that contradict the federal law maybe, but not ANY law, thats why some states allow the death penalty and some dont

and no... we are not "smart monkeys" smart monkeys are smart monkeys. we are human. thats like saying a pellican is the same as a swallow. yea there birds, but they arent the same. or that whales and walruses are the same.. no, they are not.

it's called the supremacy clause look it up moron...

i would have to disagree with just about everything you just stated but w/e to each his own the declaration of independence and the constitution are two seperate documents no body was talking about the declaration of independence.

 

[rocklandxjer]

you claimed that states cant pass laws that arent part of the federal law. your wrong.

and i was just letting you know that you were wrong. with everything. AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED BY PILGRIMS it may have been first settled by them, but it was not founded by them.

you can disagree with me all you like, but take a basic american history class and find out for yourself.
if you really want to go into it, i could give detailed examples and analysis on how every war ever faught on the premise of religion can be questioned as a war faught for money, even the crusades. and the war for independance was no different. if you think other wise, fine, but Stop putting out bad information. if you think america was separated from england when the pilgrims were still the majority, you have no concept of early america, and are missing out on at least one hundred years of history.

your not a damned scholar, get over it

 

[dzolcali]

do you even read anything man...scroll back up and take a gander at what I posted...SUPREMACY clause...if the state passes a law thats not in conformity with federal law the federal law superceeds(holds the authority) over the state law...YOUR WRONG

and I never said that the pilgrims founded america, again...YOUR WRONG

read what i wrote and quit blowing your self off...

oh and I can give you a run down of every event that ever happened in the world...so what, google is a great tool that any jack ass can use to sound smart, so keep on keeping on pilgrim