kas i never said anything about a standing up tree. i was talking about a piece that was already down. ie if there is a pile of limbs pull one out and put it in a good cutiing position. here in ca u arent aloowed to cut anything down u r only aloowed to cut 'down dead wood" . but my main point was to just stand at the back of the saw and hold it firmly so if it jumps u arent directly in its path. where i go cut fuel wood u would be surprised how many people are off to the side of it and when it jumps it damn near gets em. but yes i do wear chaps and the ax men comment was a little joke. u guys are way to serious.