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PhunkadelicXJ said:
maybe if you asked me, instead of telling me to, I would explain.

try a search, the cliffs has been discussed a time or two in this forum.
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hows this ?????????????????????? or i forgot to put a comma


explain, What sucked about it?

geez you guys on here are to sensative
 
funvtec said:
hows this ?????????????????????? or i forgot to put a comma


explain, What sucked about it?

geez you guys on here are to sensative
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there is a big difference between:

"explain what sucked about it"
(a statement)

and

"explain, what sucked about it?"
(a question)

I would suggest adding a "please" in front of explain next time, too.
"Please, explain. What sucked about it?"
It's much more polite. If you worded it like that, I might have thought about spending a few minutes explaining my statement.


Honestly, two hours is a really short trip, go there for yourself and decide whether or not the Cliffs is worth a trip next time.
 
PhunkadelicXJ said:
there is a big difference between:

"explain what sucked about it"
(a statement)

and

"explain, what sucked about it?"
(a question)

I would suggest adding a "please" in front of explain next time, too.
"Please, explain. What sucked about it?"
It's much more polite. If you worded it like that, I might have thought about spending a few minutes explaining my statement.


Honestly, two hours is a really short trip, go there for yourself and decide whether or not the Cliffs is worth a trip next time.
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wow thanks for all your knowledge

btw this is why sports die because you treat new young guys like they are inferior this is about the 5th time i've been talked to like this you think this makes me want to join and become a paying member ???????????????????


be a little more open minded and lend a helping hand instead of correcting bad punctuation PLEASE I am new to off roading and so its alot of fun but you don't make me want to meet you and hang out at an event i hope your attitude isn't typical among the xj owners here
 
funvtec said:
wow thanks for all your knowledge

btw this is why sports die because you treat new young guys like they are inferior this is about the 5th time i've been talked to like this you think this makes me want to join and become a paying member ???????????????????


be a little more open minded and lend a helping hand instead of correcting bad punctuation PLEASE I am new to off roading and so its alot of fun but you don't make me want to meet you and hang out at an event i hope your attitude isn't typical among the xj owners here
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Just relax, it isn't abuse.
It's the initiation! Kinda like frat boys whacking each other with a paddle.

Just pull up a empty beer keg, relax, put on your 'thick skin' e-suit. And enjoy.

Like someone said, two hours isn't that long. Try it, you may like it. Many of the Midwest members only look at rocks as fun.
 
w_howey said:
Just relax, it isn't abuse.
It's the initiation! Kinda like frat boys whacking each other with a paddle.

Just pull up a empty beer keg, relax, put on your 'thick skin' e-suit. And enjoy.

Like someone said, two hours isn't that long. Try it, you may like it. Many of the Midwest members only look at rocks as fun.
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thank you i needed to have someone tell me that

all i want to do is learn and experience
 
jeeplas said:
Looks like we might be down there Sat. After the last trip, I am wearing boots and bring a change of clothes to wear home. :laugh3:
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If I can convince the 'boss' I'm hoping to be there!!!
Me and my ugly Yellow Finishers boots.
 
w_howey said:
If I can convince the 'boss' I'm hoping to be there!!!
Me and my ugly Yellow Finishers boots.
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cool i'm past the "boss" thing now if i can just leave her behind?
 
funvtec said:
thank you i needed to have someone tell me that

all i want to do is learn and experience
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nine out of ten NAXJA drivers that went to Cliff's ain't goin back!!! Hasta If you need to "learn and experience" on your own, have at it pal. Don't say nobody from NAXJA didn't warn ya. Speaking of Warn. Ya better have yer own winch!
 
BOB said:
nine out of ten NAXJA drivers that went to Cliff's ain't goin back!!! Hasta If you need to "learn and experience" on your own, have at it pal. Don't say nobody from NAXJA didn't warn ya. Speaking of Warn. Ya better have yer own winch!
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thanks for the advice we have a few guys giong that have winches a couple guys with bikes and quads i've heard good and bad


Can you please tell me what is so bad about this place? and why i'm getting negative comments about going PLEASE??? Whats so wrong with it?
 
funvtec said:
Can you please tell me what is so bad about this place? and why i'm getting negative comments about going PLEASE??? Whats so wrong with it?
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Have you not read the whole thread or the entire other link?

Mud...

Tight Trails...

Mud...

Winching...

Mud...

Tight Trails...

Mud...

Winching...

Mud...

Tight Trails...

Mud...

Winching...

Mud...

Tight Trails...

Mud...

Winching...

Mud...

Tight Trails...

Mud...

Winching...

...but feel free to go for yourself....

Nice for quads and ATV's tho!
 
yes i did read it

it also says a kia sportage can go through why can't a Jeep i'm by no means a rock crawler tight trails don't bother me and mud is ok i got waders and i can wash up. I have read good and bad "it's never going to be a jeep park"

then why have all you been there? and what is a jeep park then? What makes this not a jeep park? Is it the mud and tight trails?
 
funvtec said:
yes i did read it

it also says a kia sportage can go through why can't a Jeep i'm by no means a rock crawler tight trails don't bother me and mud is ok i got waders and i can wash up. I have read good and bad "it's never going to be a jeep park"

then why have all you been there? and what is a jeep park then? What makes this not a jeep park? Is it the mud and tight trails?
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OK...I will try one more time...

The park is a nice place. The people that run it are great. The folkes that go there, with a few exceptions, are fantastic. My problem with the Cliffs is that it never seems to dry out to the level that is is "fun" if the trails are wet (they usally are) it is very rough to make progess, I am talking feet/hour. If the trails are dry, the park is not large enough as your progress on the easier trails will be quick. There are trails that can challange you when dry...but again...they are very tight and short. I have seen stock Libbys run the trails, and I have seen built XJ's move 10 feet in 2 hours on the "easy" trail.
If you hit it when it is not to wet, or to dry, it may be perfect....it is almost always wet. I love muddy, wooded, tight trails...I hate rock...even I have a hard time convincing myself that the Cliffs is worth the 2 hours less drive to go wheeling as opposed to the much larger Badlands.
I will take my quad out there anytime...it is a great quad park. Some find it a great Jeep park also...maybe you will. All we are trying to do is let you know what you will face out there, just trying to help. I would reccomend that anyone who has not tried the Cliffs in a Jeep, head out there, give it a shot, but be prepared for some damage, and HAVE A WINCH!

HTH

Rev
 
w_howey said:
Just relax, it isn't abuse.
It's the initiation! Kinda like frat boys whacking each other with a paddle.

Just pull up a empty beer keg, relax, put on your 'thick skin' e-suit. And enjoy.
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that is complete bullshit.

cheers,

jj
 
thanks guys this is the kind of explinations i need PERFECT
 
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