An example of a piece of crap human

Yes, plus the limp-"D" Judges and prosecutors are in the same category.
 
I do favour the Turkish model for handling DWI...

First Offence - you are taken fifty miles out of town and forced to walk back. No breaks. If you slow down, you are "encouraged" to make time with the front bumper of the police car.

Second Offence - once it is confirmed that you're a repeat offender, you are shot.

Third Offence - nobody gets three.

Harsh? Yeah. Draconian? Sure! But, I'm damned tired of hearing about serial DWI cases.

As far as I'm concerned, DWI should be treated as something more like "Attempted Vehicular Manslaughter" or "Wanton Endangerment" if no-one is injured, and "Vehicular Assault with Intent" if someone is injured. If someone is killed in the MVA, "Second Degree Murder" applies (means and opportunity, but no motive. Therefore, no premeditation, and therefore First Degree Murder doesn't apply.)
 
I guess it depends on your definition of DWI.

I guarantee I can drive better at .08 than 90% of people do sober.

And better than 100% of people on the phone.

Robert
 
I guess it depends on your definition of DWI.

I guarantee I can drive better at .08 than 90% of people do sober.

And better than 100% of people on the phone.

Robert

That may be true but .09 will make a nice ARB bumper look like crap real quick! That bitch that I hit was drinking and she was a blue hair! WTF are the chances? Its cool though, I love the new jeep! :D
 
Do they use breathealizer starter interlocks down there? they do up here for repeat offenders. Near $1000 initial installation, monthly rental fee and monthly recalibration and inspection. If you get one where I live its a 3 hr drive for recalibration. And you are only allowed to drive your vehicle with the interlock, drive another car without and its the same as driving while suspended
 
First offense a 8" steel spike gets installed on the face of the drivers side airbag. Second offense will eliminate the problem. Almost as good as the greek method without wasting a cops time crawling for 50 miles.
 
another quote to add to the list of famous last words....

:roflmao:

I should have said that I "could" drive better.

I'm not bragging that I, nor encouraging others to, ignore the law.

I'm saying that we have spent so much attention on the casual drinker that has two or three beers with dinner, that we ignore that the average (sober) driver, flat sucks.

Every day on my way to work, I see people wandering in and out of their lane, daydreaming through green lights, turning left from the right lane, right from the left, etc. To say nothing of the oblivious geriatric doing ten under the limit in the passing lane, with their left turn signal on. Every day.

If I drove like that leaving a bar, they'd put me away.

But I don't. I always pay more attention than that. And I pay even more attention than normal when I've had a couple of drinks. (Not a sixer, mind you, just a couple.)

Focus on the idiots that drive like crap every day, and the legitimate drunks like the dufus in the original post.

Robert
 
I'll drink to that! :cheers:
 
I guess it depends on your definition of DWI.

I guarantee I can drive better at .08 than 90% of people do sober.

And better than 100% of people on the phone.

Robert

I went to Ground School before I went to Driver's Ed - and the rule they gave use in Ground School was simple:

"Twelve Hours, Bottle to Throttle."

It had better be one Hell of an emergency if you're going to get me to try to violate that rule.
 
I went to Ground School before I went to Driver's Ed - and the rule they gave use in Ground School was simple:

"Twelve Hours, Bottle to Throttle."

It had better be one Hell of an emergency if you're going to get me to try to violate that rule.

Jon, I hate to differ with you, man...

But unless you hit it a whole lot harder than I do, twelve hours is just gross overkill.

BAC drops about .015 per hour. If it takes twelve hours to recover, you must've started at .18, about 2 1/2 times the driving limit.

At my weight (185 today, yay me) that's nine beers in an hour. I seem to remember that you're a substantially (ahem) larger man than I am, so you'd probably take a twelve pack to get there. In an hour.

That ain't social drinking, my friend.

Robert
 
Jon, I hate to differ with you, man...

But unless you hit it a whole lot harder than I do, twelve hours is just gross overkill.

BAC drops about .015 per hour. If it takes twelve hours to recover, you must've started at .18, about 2 1/2 times the driving limit.

At my weight (185 today, yay me) that's nine beers in an hour. I seem to remember that you're a substantially (ahem) larger man than I am, so you'd probably take a twelve pack to get there. In an hour.

That ain't social drinking, my friend.

Robert

Rob - recall that Ground School is more about pilot safety than anything else. Also, it's far easier to massively screw up in an aircraft, and you're just about guaranteed to get a serious case of death in any case of an aircraft striking something other than the air.

Before I had to start on Depakote (dammit! 500mg BID...) I didn't drink often. But, a night of drinking was usually done at home (it cost entirely too damned much to go out and do it,) the first fifth last about 120-150 minutes to get the buzz going, and the second one would last the rest of the evening for maintenance (you're right - I am rather larger than you. I also don't bother with beer [never acquired a taste for drinking the stuff over here anyhow - overseas is far more tolerable,] and my liver works far too well to get the desired effect from beer in the first place.)

I have no idea how long it would take to shake off the drunk - I'd usually enjoy being drunk and spend the evening "getting handsy" with my S/O until I finally decided to pass out. Usually woke up 5-6 hours later feeling just ducky, still not hurting too badly, and have a productive day.

I didn't feel at all impaired, and would probably pass a Breathalyzer at aught point aught aught, but why take the chance? It's a rule I'd learned, it's a rule that has served me well for longer than I'd care to admit to.

Doesn't matter where I started - by the time I'd cleared myself to drive, I know I was clear to drive - and that's enough for me. Maybe I'm a bit more cautious than I really need to be - but life is all about risk management, and some risks are easier to manage and/or avoid than others!
 
Better safe than sorry, I suppose...

I'm normally not one to snatch sig quotes from the fora, but that's a gem I just can't resist...

:cheers:

Robert
 
Do they use breathealizer starter interlocks down there? they do up here for repeat offenders. Near $1000 initial installation, monthly rental fee and monthly recalibration and inspection. If you get one where I live its a 3 hr drive for recalibration. And you are only allowed to drive your vehicle with the interlock, drive another car without and its the same as driving while suspended
This guy had no regard for the law whatsoever, he was borrowing a vehicle and was supposed to be suspended for DWI on that very day. You can't shake your finger at dirtbags like this and tell them not to do something, you have to MAKE them not do it somehow. A stay at the greybar hotel usually works pretty well. This guy obviously needs someone to smack him around a bit or he's just going to shrug and do it again, apparently he feels he is above the rules but SUCKS at getting away with it.

I went to Ground School before I went to Driver's Ed - and the rule they gave use in Ground School was simple:

"Twelve Hours, Bottle to Throttle."

It had better be one Hell of an emergency if you're going to get me to try to violate that rule.
I don't go quite that far... will drive anytime after 1 beer (which I don't even feel), wait 1 hour before driving if I've had two or two hours if I've had 3. If anything except beer is involved, a full night's sleep is required. I am not a pilot though, I only have to handle two dimensions and the other halfwits on the road instead of 3 dimensions.

I used to drink a whole hell of a lot more than I do now, a fifth would only last me a party or two. I don't think I've had more than a couple shots in an evening since new years now. I very rarely get hangovers, mostly because I drink a whole bunch of water while drinking alcohol. Every time I've gotten a hangover it was the morning after I had forgotten to drink as much water as usual.
 
Holly Crap! did that guy actually get 2 DUI's in 2 days! With a record of another DUI? How the hell did he go home that night after a second DUI?

And do you think his SUV was lifted? Kinda looks like BB :shhh:
 
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