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Old April 1st, 2014, 21:00
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I too dig the CRF, although I tend to go for Green or Orange the Honda's are definitely good bikes.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 20:08
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Well the lady's ttr is being torn down. Gonna get it fixed up (guy bought all shit to rebuild top end and didn't know what to do) and gonna rebuild forks as well as an exhaust. Just gonna run it for a few months til she is confident enough to spend the money on a newer ttr125 or crf150. I hope she gets her confidence back quick as I really want her to have something better for the moab trip than the crap 01 ttr. (Can't really complain, I got the ttr and cash for a 500$ gun)
Any thoughts in just doing the yz85 swap instead of rebuilding stock stuff??
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 20:34
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There are write ups. Here's one from ChickenHauler over @ thumpertalk;

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/360...k-swap-how-to/

Rebuilding the stock stuff is easy. They're conventional forks. Just need a vise and a home made seal tool made from the correct diameter PVC. Does it need a rear shock seal as well? I could do all the work you're talking about. I don't know if you've sourced the work or not already. What parts do you have for the top end? Do you know if the cylinder head is good? I forget if those are sleeved or not. Cylinder heads are cheap for them though if not. Won't know until you tear into it.

I have time this next week. I'm working on a Yamaha Zuma right now for a lady that wants to sell it. I could definitely work your ttr into my schedule. I'll do it for 60% of what a shop quotes you.

Let me know if I can help. Sure could use the scratch.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 20:47
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Oh ya I know all about the write ups. Just didn't know if there was any experience with it here.
Bikes already getting worked on in sprigs. Thanks though.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 21:01
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I've done fork swaps on other bikes, not specifically the YZ to TTR though. Looks as though the height of the YZ forks work pretty well. It's just finding the donor for a decent price. Good luck. Hey - when you go to sell that TTR let me know. I'm looking for another yard bike.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 21:21
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Ya I've been browsing. We may just leave it stock until she gets new bike.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 21:36
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My father in law has a TTR-225 that I've ridden in the dirt. You don't want to jump it but its a great little bike.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 21:38
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Those TTR 225's are strange bikes indeed. Very under sprung for their weight.
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Yeah, but for a small trail bike to get used to the dirt I think its about perfect.

I really miss my KTM 950-ADV


Its a KTM 690 Enduro with a Raldly Raid fairing and fuel tank kit.

I think however that with some time on the TTR-225 I'll be able to get to a point where I can get this as my ultimate dual sport and be able to make use of it.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 23:26
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I just don't get all the wight so high and uneccessary. Those luckily are thin compared to the BMW bikes. But I like the basic idea of a plated dirtbike. Your crf is perfect. Not too much bag but enough for essentials and the rest does on your back. I think 450 would be perfect. While it is an older bike, I don't feel like a 250 has quite the ass I would want for street. But that idea may change as I spend time with it on trails and find a balance.
Next battle will be electric start or not.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 08:24
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Electric right legs are pretty awesome, I gotta say.

You may be able to strike a balance with a WR250R. It was a bit mild for my taste and under sprung for my kind of riding, and possibly a little on the heavy side. However it's got an electric start, fuel injection, inverted forks, lights, brake light switch, blinkers, 18" rear wheel instead of an MX style 19" 300 pounds which isn't crazy, it's electric start only, which is good and bad, but you don't have to worry about it when you park it (keeping honest people honest) set aside the fact it can be lifted into the back of a truck by a couple of guys. It's steering locks and the bike won't start without the key. It also has 26,000 mile valve check intervals. It's a 4 valve dual over head cam motor so it's not a complete dog but it's not clench your ass exciting either. I'll also note that it has a wide ratio 6 speed gearbox that is unparalleled to any 450 on the market if you're going to ride it on the street.

The problem with most of the 450's is that they're still based on their bred race machine counterparts. So you have to battle final drive gear ratios if you want good street performance or if you want good woods performance. Because they're still pretty close ratio 5 speed transmissions. Holding a 450 anywhere close to pinned on the street just feels wrong. I'm barely good for 55 mph with my current gearing, that's pushing it. If you're going to ride a lot on the street I'd consider tall gearing and cush drive hub. Also, I may consider installing a keyed ignition if I was going to leave it parked for longer than it takes me to eat a meal while I can still see it from where I'm sitting.

The WR250R for a novice level rider is near the pinnacle of 50/50 (road/dirt) use just because of it's features. It's also far more forgiving than the 450 class bikes.

Luggage needs are now made easy through Wolfmanluggage.com you can hang all the bags you want off it. There's also a huge following for the WR250R, so it has proper aftermarket support. I think there's a dirtbags brand too that I hear is comparable, but I can't speak for them.

I ride that 450 maybe 15% on road and 85% off road. It makes more sense for the kind of riding I do. There's a right bike for every purpose, but there is no perfect bike for multiple things. I call it the Swiss Army Knife Theory; The more things a tool is good at, the more poorly it will execute any of them. You gotta figure out what kind of motorcycling you like to do, and buy the bike that does it best with the least amount of compromise possible.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 08:34
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Right. And keep in mind these things weigh nothing compared to the street pigs in used to with additional cages and subframe reinforcements etc. I do agree the 250 feels sluggish as it's not a geared to hell streetbike, bit it is a ton easier to flick around which I'm really digging. (Not that I've had it on the streets or anything yet ) I am not trying to do any hardcore offroad riding or anything. Lots of trails and I won't mind harsh environments. But no 4/5th tapped runs through bumps for me. Lol.

Next bike for me will definitely be injected. I can careless about electric start. I guess cuz I am new at it, but I enjoy being able to kick a bike over.
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There isn't a lot of top weight on the KTM 950 or the Rally Raid converted 690. The tanks are on either side of the frame instead of on top. The fairing/windscreen help with wind and provide protection from rocks being tossed up by the guy in front of you.

The big 950 is a 100hp and 500lbs wet weight monster, way more bike than I want to deal with off road, but if you're going long distances with a mix of pavement and dirt it's hard to beat. The GS 1200 is way more street biased. The Yamaha Super Tenere is sort of in between the two.

Now the 690 Enduro is something else entirely. In stock trim it's only 309lbs dry. It has a 6spd, fuel injection, fully adjustable WP suspension, a very broad power curve from its 66hp engine, and electric start. A kick start back up is all it needs, but that went away with the 640 series.

The KTM 640's were good but really vibey and only a 5spd. My 640 Enduro would do 75 but it was sketchy.

It's all a matter of what you're wanting to do. I think that Rally Raid converted 690 is a great balance between a 450 Enduro and the big 950 Adventure.

I also like the WR250R or the KLX250S. The KLX lacks power for sustained road travel though. The WR has a bit more power so would probably be better in the street.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 09:22
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That's the only place I like the WR.

If I went slower off road it wouldn't be an issue, I'd probably till have it.

...but I'm an ex MX racer turned single track junky. The WR just doesn't cut it for me.

My CRF can be a handful sometimes. I'm only 5'8 and 140 pounds with a 30" inseam though. The CRF's seat height is like 37 inches. Overly slow and technical sections when I have to coerce the bike over obstacles will really eat some calories for me, that's for sure. I think I may have the suspension internally lowered this season. I'd shave the seat but I've already got taller risers on my triple clamp to clear my steering stabilizer. I just think at that point the cockpit would be way to roomy sitting down.

The bike is an absolute monster. Explosively powerful, I really dig it. The only other bike for me might be a KTM 300XCW.

I do want to acquire a BMW GS650 Dakar and do a proper inverted MX fork on it. That'd be a great overlandy/touring bike for me.

God I love bikes, it's safe to say if I lived in a warmer climate I wouldn't own passenger vehicles.
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The GS Dakar is a great platform but heavy. That's why I like that 690 Enduro with the Rally Raid kit so much. It's like a Dakar or KLR but lighter, faster, and way cooler.

Still, a Dakar is high on my list.
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