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Eagle

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Okay, still trying to trouble-shoot the modem problem on the notebook. MS knowledge base told me that the error message I was getting occurs when using a USR modem and the Windows-provided driver. Of course, the modem I had (PCMMIA) wasn't a USR, it was a Lucent, and I wasn't using the Windows driver ... nonetheless, in the hope that a different modem might solve the problem I went out this morning and bought a new PC Card modem and installed it. And ...

Wonder of wonders, I don't get Error message 650 any more. Unfortunately, I still can't connect ... I've exchanged Error 650 for Error 261 -- Winsock.dll cannot connect (or something like that).

Does anyone remember enough about Win98 to help trouble-shoot a Winsock error? The MS knowledge base doesn't return anything when I search on the error number or on "Winsock.dll"

TIA
 
one more thing

Try installing the latest version of microsofts DUN [Dial Up Networking], I forget the last version. Did you try that external modem or decide to fight the pcmica demon some more :D

I just remembered this, don't put too much faith in that pcmica card being manufactured by lucent. Back a few years ago Netgear network cards had a digital chip on them, win98 and NT would both try to run the nic using a dec driver which did not work, you needed the Netgear driver to talk to the card. The downside was that the system could talk to it, it just would not work.
That PCMICA card probably has propriatary drivers that toshiba used, without those drivers you will have problems. It *might* be possible that win98/ME *might* have them and if you removed the card, let win98SE redetect it and you inserted a win98ME cd, pointed to the drivers directory it just might take but I don't know if it would work.
Did you go to toshiba's site and download the latest drivers for that card, forgot to ask you when we talked.
I was just poking around toshibas download site but the PM you sent me with the model and such was lost during the outage I guess. 3 downloads for PCMCIA drivers and 3 or modem drivers.
 
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AHHH What he said ^^^^^


But I have a side questions

how are you writing us if you cant get connected?


Hmmmmm:D

Gotta mess with yea :)
 
wilson0309 said:
But I have a side questions

how are you writing us if you cant get connected?

The desktop computer works. It's my notebook that has the problem. Need to get it resolved so I can give it to someone whose computer was stolen.

So ... how do I install DUN? Tried Windoze HELP and, naturally, that was a total waste of time. The term isn't in the index.
 
Ummm ...

Skorp, I can download it on the desktop, but then how do I install it on the notebook? Or is the download a self-extracting, auto-executing file?

(Can you tell I don't understand these things and don't have a clue what I'm doing?)
 
Eagle said:
Ummm ...

Skorp, I can download it on the desktop, but then how do I install it on the notebook? Or is the download a self-extracting, auto-executing file?

(Can you tell I don't understand these things and don't have a clue what I'm doing?)

I'd be willing to bet that there is a way to get it downloaded for off-line installation. I have stashed around somewhere instructions on how to download the complete IE 5.5sp2 in a fully standalone installation set, so DUN should also be able to be pulled down this way. If you can't find it at Microsoft's site, look for a slightly older version at one of the various shareware archive sites to get you online, and then once it's installed, connect to Windows Update with the Notebook to get it up to date.

Once you get it downloaded to the desktop, you have a couple of options on how to get it over to the notebook:

1. Use winzip or pkzip to place it onto multiple floppy disks (zip it to the floppy drive with spanning enabled), then simply unzip it to the notebook.

2. Use hyperterminal and a null-modem cable to transfer it (I've used the ZModem protocols successfully in the past, it's the only one I've used), using the "Send file" and "Recieve File" in Hyperterminal. It's slow, but it will get there.

3. If both the notebook and the desktop have ethernet cards, come up with a crossover network cable (the ethernet version of a null-modem cable), share the folder on the desktop that the download is in, and then pull it across.

HTH,

Rob
 
Does the notebook have enough resources to install Win2K Pro? That could help solve a lot of weird problems, some of which are not uncovered as of yet.
 
mbryson said:
Does the notebook have enough resources to install Win2K Pro? That could help solve a lot of weird problems, some of which are not uncovered as of yet.

I seriously doubt it. It's a 1 Gb hard drive and with Win98 and a couple of apps it is currently between 67% and 75% full.
 
Eagle said:
I seriously doubt it. It's a 1 Gb hard drive and with Win98 and a couple of apps it is currently between 67% and 75% full.


That'd be too easy..........sorry.....forgot most of my Win95/98 knowledge.........I seem to remember doing a Win2K workstation a while ago where it seemed like I kept the OS in the 200-300 meg range (no I386 folder or anything). It might be worth a shot.


Theoretically {oxymoron when you're speaking of our friends from Redmond}, you should be fine with the Win98 install and your new driver if it's got a legacy driver. PCMCIA's are always interesting. We have one person that handles the corporate laptops and we only buy one vendor to keep things as simple as possible.
 
MS DUN1.4 is a 504K sized exe, it will fit on a floppy. Don't save the download to the desk top, make a directory called 'download' or 'temp' or whatever and save it to there, then copy it to the floppy. Just do go to microsoft, downloads and do a search on Windows DUN 1.4, it will take you right to the download choice.
 
Got it.

Also called AT&T support, and their guy recognized the problem and walked me through scrubbing all communications protocols from the Windoze Registry and reinstalling. He says that'll do it but I haven't tested it yet.

Thanks for trying to help, guys. Life sure was simple when I typed reports on an IBM Selectric II.
 
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