Las Vegas boy dies after being stranded in Death Valley

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Pretty sad. The mother probably did not realize how deadly real heat can be.


http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=10867128

The mother told authorities she got a flat tire on the way to Death Valley and continued after replacing it. Then, later in the day, their Jeep got stuck in the sand along the northern border of the China Lake Naval Weapons Center.
The mother hiked to the top of a tall peak to try to get a cell phone signal but could not, officials said. The pair had no maps and quickly consumed the 24 16-oz. bottles of water, Pop Tarts and cheese sandwiches they had packed.
The vehicle was found several miles off a dirt road in the middle of the desert and apparently got stuck when it drove over an underground coyote den and the soil collapsed, Lotspeich said.
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Here's another one:

Teen tourist (visiting from AK) dies after passing out from heat stroke while hiking in a Phoenix mountain park.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/07/20/20090720hikerdies20-ON.html
 
Dumb mom probably didnt conserve water and pissed it away 3 gallons is enough for them to survive 5 days.
 
Live and learn,...

..,or not.

You'd think a name like "Death Valley" would be kind of a clue.
 
On the flip side we have had 4 drownings here at the Delaware water gap national park in the last 2 months.
 
That is sad...but if you don't respect the environment and prepare for it, things like this can happen.

I've been to Death Valley a couple of times (in Summer time)...the key is to prepare...think ahead and research and respect it. Try to compensate for all the things that can happen...and hopefully have enough resources to deal with the unexpected. Be aware of Murphy's Law...

Also true...once you get into Death Valley...there is no cell phone signal...complete isolation...one of the reason I like it so much...

Surprisingly, death by heat or lack of water is not the number one killer in Death Valley...when I first visited there, I was told that the number one death is vehicle roll over...people looking at the scenery while driving and not seeing that upcoming curve...
 
cottage country up here just lost about 6 'playing' in the water near rapids.
it never seems like its a danger, until its too late.

really no different then the newbie going on a run on their own, getting stuck and being screwed... only these screweds end up dead.
 
I almost got bit in the arse up in that area once. Three vehicles, we camped near China Gardens, went to sleep and woke up at 3 AM frozen to the bone. The spring and stream near where we were camped was frozen solid. Jeep would barely turn over, the oil was as thick as honey.
Some kind of freak inversion thing, the valley swapped air with the mountains. It was really cold, it had been like 80-90 when we went to bed.
I had to fill a pot full of sand and gasoline, light it and heat up the pan before the engine would turn over fast enough to start, I drove out inside my sleeping bag.
If the lady would have had a map (any map) and a compass, she could have hiked out of there in 5-6 hours (easy). You often see piles of rocks and little placards in that area telling of somebody who died, clear back into the 1800's.
You hear about that happening to tourists all the time in Australia.
 
8Mud said:
I almost got bit in the arse up in that area once. Three vehicles, we camped near China Gardens, went to sleep and woke up at 3 AM frozen to the bone. The spring and stream near where we were camped was frozen solid. Jeep would barely turn over, the oil was as thick as honey.
Some kind of freak inversion thing, the valley swapped air with the mountains. It was really cold, it had been like 80-90 when we went to bed.
I had to fill a pot full of sand and gasoline, light it and heat up the pan before the engine would turn over fast enough to start, I drove out inside my sleeping bag.
If the lady would have had a map (any map) and a compass, she could have hiked out of there in 5-6 hours (easy). You often see piles of rocks and little placards in that area telling of somebody who died, clear back into the 1800's.
You hear about that happening to tourists all the time in Australia.
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OMFG how did I know you had a story to top this one? Where are the cops who kicked your ass or the thugs you threatened? :roflmao:
 
ECKSJAY said:
OMFG how did I know you had a story to top this one? Where are the cops who kicked your ass or the thugs you threatened? :roflmao:
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Thank the one God with a hundred names I'm not you, I'd have to commit suicide. What a fawken ankle biter.

ankle-biter

Someone that feels the need to overcompensate in any way,for any kinda shortcoming; ala small,loud barking dogs that bite your ankles to show you their workin' wit' sumthin'..
 
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Are you sure you don't have a unicorn farm on the East Coast? I know this large-foreheaded individual who used to hang out here. You guys would probably get along great...
 
8Mud said:
Thank the one God with a hundred names I'm not you, I'd have to commit suicide. What a fawken ankle biter.

ankle-biter

Someone that feels the need to overcompensate in any way,for any kinda shortcoming; ala small,loud barking dogs that bite your ankles to show you their workin' wit' sumthin'..
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Need to compensate....always having some extreme story about something crazy that happened to you that tops whatever the current story is...always pointing to how tough you are...your supposed Special Forces history...etc etc. Hmm....
 
Sucks that her son died because of her lack of preparation for what was supposed to be a fun camping trip. Points out a good maxim: don't head out alone, especially into somewhere like Death Valley.
 
Darky said:
Need to compensate....always having some extreme story about something crazy that happened to you that tops whatever the current story is...always pointing to how tough you are...your supposed Special Forces history...etc etc. Hmm....
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My wife (and all of her sisters) play the same game, elect themselves judge and jury of any situation. Your husband (or boyfriend) must be a happy guy.
 
I think I saw this Jerry springer episode before.
 
Coastie said:
Uhhhh.....isn't Darky like ummm..... a dude....?

Or did I miss that great humor at you calling him a women?
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Sorry, he sounded like somebodies beatch to me. Heck he called me a liar, I can only think of one other guy that was there that day who is still alive and doubt he'd appreciate a phone call from the inquisitor.

And somebody pipes the Coastie on board, gang tackle.

I never did say I was Special Forces, my first MOS was Scout, worked with them some, along with the Rangers and others, actually taught some courses they attended. I can think of worse things to be proud of.
 
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