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How many CO XJer's does it take to run Die Trying?

Goatman

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NONE!!!!!! :( :( :eek: :confused: :D :D

I still can't believe that we invited the whole CO XJ list, at least those who were set up properly, and no one showed up to run either 21 Road or Die Trying. We took 10 XJ's through Die Trying, the first time anything like that has been done, and everyone was from out of the state. We had rigs from CA, WA, OR, UT, and WI, but none from CO. That is one kick ass trail, very tight, with some big climbs and a real steep climb out at the end with a few big ledges in it. We feel very fortunate to get 10 rigs through with no breakdowns......a testament to how well the rigs and drivers where prepared.

Evidently, the CO people just can't handle it. :eek: :D :D

I know that a few XJ's have run Die Trying, so I'm not saying it hasn't been done before, just that a whole group of XJ's running it is a first. It blows my mind that no one from CO was there to claim their part in the adventure. I want to thank Brad Green, who is a NAXJA member from Telluride, for coming out to show us to the trails in Montrose. Brad lead us on Scratch and Dent, but isn't quite set up for Die Trying.

Grant and Led met us at Avalanche Ranch, which also had some very tough trails, so we did finally have some CO folks along on the trip. As soon as everyone gets settled I'm sure there will be plenty of pics.
 
Beez, I think someone put words in my mouth on that one. I've wanted to run the Montrose and Penrose trails for a long time, still want to run Penrose. Of course, I've always found it strange that I could find only a couple in CO who had ever run the real hard stuff.

I'm mostly ragging on the CO guys because they've made a big deal about how hard some of the trails they have are, but few have run them, and when we put a trip together to run them none of the CO guys show up. If you think I'm talking hard here, you should have heard the things that were said while we were on the trails. ;) :)

I guess most of the CO guys did their hardcore wheeling in Moab at Jeep Safari......or on the web! :D :D

Just a little good natured fun. Hopefully, we'll shake them out for the next trip. :)
 
Bah- I've got to get points for effort. The Jeep is *mostly* ready today, although that is one week late.

I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say that you are actually correct. There's too many CO guys worrying about what settings to run their RS9's on their 4" lift, and not enough that will actually get out, especially if there's a risk of !gasp! body damage!

Oh well, I'll meet all you west coast boys in Moab, isn't that in October or something? Up for the RCAA course at Proving Grounds? ;)
 
Um, sorry Richard -- those were your words about the Colorado wheeling situation :rolleyes: I believe you received an award in recognition for that as well -- but I know you said it "tongue-in-cheek" ;)

That really is a bummer that NOT ONE COLORADO GUY showed up for those trails you mentioned. I really wanted to but I recently promoted to Sergeant at the Cop Shop and didn't feel I should take time off so soon after promoting. I'm hating all this talk of what a good time you all had! Sucks for me I guess :D !!!

Sorry JJacobs, but this is one Colorado guy who ain't picking my trails based on the body-damage factor. I'll gladly run with the big dogs when I can -- I refuse to be the smallest dog in the group though -- don't wanna be the one who breaks and holds the group behind. I'm workin' on that though........ :D

I also thought that was cool that one of those guys from the other group that broke on 21 Road posted to thank you guys! Just another example of the caliber of people in this organization! Well done fellas!

Can't wait for some pics and video.
 
Jon, I thought you wouldn't do anything harder than Spring Creek :D

Hopefully get to wheel with you again in Oct. Wanna do DT on the way over. I wanna show the folks something tough before we hit Moab. I'm taking Dad to Paragon tomorrow, should be a good weekend.

Sean
 
After all the fighting words from the west coast guys, you would think they would commit to an east vs west challenge.

Time and Date - 20th Anniversary, afternoon
Location - Proving Grounds
East of the Rockies Team - Jacobs, OneTon, Barclay
West of the Rockies team - ?????, actually the only person with large enough cajones (sp?) would be Jenni driving Farmer Matt's rig.
Rules and Reg's - to be decided

Whaddya say now, Goatman?
 
Yup, Paul. I think you got us beat with a Matt tool. Not just the Matt tool but the Jenni accesory (sp?) is pretty damn good behind the wheel, as well
 
Grant said:
After all the fighting words from the west coast guys, you would think they would commit to an east vs west challenge.

Time and Date - 20th Anniversary, afternoon
Location - Proving Grounds
East of the Rockies Team - Jacobs, OneTon, Barclay
West of the Rockies team - ?????, actually the only person with large enough cajones (sp?) would be Jenni driving Farmer Matt's rig.
Rules and Reg's - to be decided

Whaddya say now, Goatman?

Sure, let's do it, but it needs to be CO guys. I know guys from east of CO that don't have a problem showing up for the tough stuff. You can't bring Sean into it, he's never backed down from anything. Also, no trailer rigs and they must be street legal, us west coast guys can drive our rigs across the country, wheel hard, and then drive them home again. Topless rigs, 38's, trailered to the trail, against us street Jeeps with 35's? Come awn, get some of those regular CO dudes to come out and do some wheeling!! :D

Think we'll have this thoroughly worked up by the 20th Anniversary Celebration?? :) :)

I still think we should put together a Montrose/Johnson Valley CO/CA challenge, that would be fun. Maybe we could get Sean out for something like that? We could have a cook off too, Mil's Carne Asada against whatever you guys can come up with. :D
 
Why don't you guys do a real East vs. West challenge. JV and Paragon- that'll sort out the real big dogs and who can keep 'em going. I'd purpose build a street rig for that. I've got half the parts already ( lt1, 700r, d300, d61, d44), just lookin' for my free 2 door body.

Goat, how's this- if you guys can find someone with enough balls to build a XJ buggy, we'll run 3 of your street rigs against 3 of our street rigs and a 1 on 1 buggy. Cal Rocs scoring rules apply?????????

Sean
 
Nah, I think we should just do it for time......fastest time to complete the trail wins. Besides, I'm just talking about CO guys. Grant needs to make it East vs West because he can't get enough CO guys out to the trails!! :D

I'd love to come back there and do Paragon, and get you out to JV. Does anyone have access to a military cargo plane?? :)

Oh, and we don't need an XJ buggy, we run it all anyway with our street Jeeps, and we can still run the A/C when we want. :rolleyes:
 
I think to get more of the CO guys out there you'll have to run the really hard core trails like this:

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:D
 
Drove the XJ to work today, so it must be street legal? Had a cop slowing down so he could get behind me, then rode my ass while I sweated bullets. I turned, he kept going. So, that's street legal in my book- and according to "home rule" legislation it'd be OK nationwide. (technically)

Let's not trot out the street legal and A/C argument just because you guys are scared of real tires! 35's are dinky.
 
Hey Goat I DROVE mine there on 38s!! And when you add the population numbers together yall have quite a larger pool to draw from. So to be fair about it you got to give us a few extra states! :D
Led
 
2 door

Sean...I got that old 119" WB MJ shell. Let me steal the low mile 6, front axe and gages out of it, (maybe the bed too for a trailer that matches my 88 and 87) and it's yours to build up with that SBC etc...if ya want it. I'd be proud to contribute it to the East vs West war effort.

He is one of the few animals I'd trust maulling my firstborn unibody Jeep.

Street legal is all relative to who pulls ya over and why...I got pulled last week on the way to work (post lift-pre alignment) Deputy was like "Are you drunk?" I said nope...but if I get to work and home alive I'll get that way to celebrate, then I'll align this shit-box. He said (mean voice) "You are all over the road!" I was like :rolleyes: Duh! I KNOW that...I'm the one tryin to drive it! I was in the ditch a bunch too before ya started following me and I had to speed up to the limit. For effect I got out, started wiggling on the steering stuff and control arms...LMAO he was disgusted, finally said "Well...Be careful!" and left me to plod along.
 
Woody, only in North Carolina, and perhaps West Virginia.

CRASH
 
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