Amend a by-law.......LET THE VOTING BEGIN.....

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WesternXJ

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Amend a by-law.......FAILED

As most of you know, we have a $5 per Sierra Chapter run due that we voted in. It's been brought to my attention that we could have more than one run per month and paying for each run seems unfair. I would like to talk about this and maybe someone could make a motion to limit the due to ONLY ONE run per month. Anyone?

I'll let this run for a week and then we can vote.
 
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Hi Keven,

When we talked last you said SC had adopted NAXJA bylaws. Reading the bylaws there is no mention of the $5.00 event fee. I agree with the fee, but I would also want to know what qualifies as a SC event/run. For example, if you post a run and only you and 2 members show up, your to collect $15. Then the $15 is sent to the Chapter treasurer. We need to do this even if it is just a short day run? Like I had mentioned to you earlier, I suggest we publish our all our chapter bylaws, before we do any voting.

Thanks
 
The SC uses the national bylaws. In the national bylaws it says chapters can charge fees/dues. We voted in a $5 fee/due/donation per run (up to 6 per year) to be paid to the trip leader then given to the SC treasurer as a way to generate monies for the club. This money can only be used after a vote.

Any trip/run using this forum (bandwith) is considered a SC run. Limiting this fee to only one run a month [i:9f5041a5e3]might[/i:9f5041a5e3]
remove some anxiety from using this board and seems fair (to me). :?

Once this is voted on I'll post our amendments as a sticky. :wink:
 
I don't see myself doing 6 runs with you guys this year but you never know. Will there be anywhere or anyplace to see how much you've contributed over the year? I know some people don't like to see stuff like that but we do drive Jeeps and they do break. What if you pay for those first 6 and all the runs are in the month of nebuary, are you all paid up for the year? Like we we would have 6 runs in one month. Maybe you just drop 30 bucks (if that's the max amount) on the first run are you clear for the year? Questions ?'s, ?'s,.... :?
 
Yes, if you wanted to give the treasurer $30 in January, you'd be covered for the year, no matter how many runs you make. If a member doesn't think they'll make more than 6 runs per year, I reccomend paying as you go.
 
The treasurer having paypal or something works out great. I think those that know they will hit six runs a year paying p front is very beneficial. The money that is collected can be used for things that maybe we each want but cannot afford such as onboard welder or pnuematic blender. Regardless we will all benefit from the fees. It may also help us when we fight to keep our favorite trails open. This is all just a thought.
:)
 
SeanP. is our treasurer and he doesn't have pay-pal. You can mail me or SeanP. the money or give it to the trail leader of the next run you attend.


PS. I can't make the motion. :wink:
 
Ok so I am not really a member but I will give my input, even though it doesn't really matter.

I personally don't care for the if you use the bandwidth its a Naxja chapter run and requires a $5 dollar donation. What if we do a last minute run and invite a few people, I don't consider it an official run. Or if Sean and I go to Praire city to see how badly our new homemade additions are gonna break :) and we invite other to come and :lol: I don't think $5 needs to be collected.

On the other hand planned and organized runs, such as what Chuck organized for Hollister (thanks for your efforts by the way, even though I did not make it.) And the JV run Richard is organizing, are diffrent and I think the $5 should be donated/collected.

The Naxja president asked us to organize a few runs this year, and so far we really haven't, Chuck took on the Hollister one but other than that we haven't really planned anything. I don't think it would be too big of a deal to plan out our summers runs now and have a calender.

for instance set a weekend late june to run the con (assuming its open)
another weekend for barrett in July
another weekend in aug for fordyce.

and some other weekend for rescue, mushroom rock or somewhere else.
 
I will second the motion for the $5. I see Garys point and that it is is just a point. There is a maximum that can collected through the year and the idea of paying ahead of time is cover the fact that we may have more than one run a month. I feel that a "run" should be something that the SC plans and is done in advance and not last minute. That means that if ten of us decide to go testing at PC that is not considered a "run". I may be way off base here but that is how I see it.
 
It’s all about wheelin not banking.

I’m not an official member here yet ether but I will throw in my 2cents, The NAXJA bylaws have some fairly strict rules regarding what constitutes an event, and I quote…

SPONSORED EVENTS AND TRIP RULES
A Sponsored event is by definition an event in which NAXJA formally recognizes the Event as a NAXJA Event, and the Event is attended by at least one Director. Chapter Events must meet the same criteria. Formal recognition of an Event will be established by Board of Director voting procedures, and subsequent publication on the NAXJA website.

There are also other requirements that must be met to qualify. How bout having another read of the bylaws. It seams clear to me.
As for the money why not just ask for the full thirty dollars on the first run and make an exception if someone can’t come up with the cash right away. I just figure that this will save a lot of unnecessary five-dollar bill transactions. It’s all about wheelin not banking.
 
I think that there is a difference between a sponsered event and a run. I also feel that for it to be posted as a SC run or event you would have to be a memeber of Naxja which then makes you a member of the SC. There is also nothing wrong with planning something back-channel if you want to do something last minute and maybe not organize a full run with a trail leader and so forth. In my opinion I think that paying $30 up front is not a big deal and if you cannot afford it all at once then arrangements can be made. I think that we are just trying to find a way to generate moneys that we all can benefit from and to help the chapter grow.

We can als go away from the whole $5 a run thing and get set up more as a normal club and just charge a flat fee of $30 whether you come out and participate or not. It is up to us to decide.

I will put in the first motion for the $5 a run or just pay the maximun of $30 a year in one shot. This is really only an interpretation issue and we cant seem to find the common ground that is needed.
 
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