Hey Jeepinandy, you need to come out and run Redcone. The pucker factor alone makes wusses out of most east of the big muddy. This trail has a reputation for killing people. While the pix you saw were pretty mild, the big fun part is the downhill through skree, where if you can't stop and if you get off line and go off the side, they use a helicopter to remove the vehicle after they remove your body. Yes I have led stockers through it, but that doesn't mean it is a cakewalk. I love it when you can look out your window and it is 1500 feet to the bottom.
