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Bilstein shocks... whatchya gonna runnin??

Well ya thats the goal... I said i would benefit from more down travel then up... Maybe i worded it wrong. More droop ie extension is preferred.

I also understand that when one side goes down the other goes up... So although id like more extension, for that to happen id need the uptravel on the opposite side to allow for it. With the bump stops allowing for still more droop on the opposite side, I want it to articulate as much as possible of course.

Isnt that your idea as well? Low lift high articulation?

I do have bump stops and limiting straps, so the shock isnt the limiting factor- nor should they be. Agreed.

Thats why Im curious to how much of the travel is calculated from ride height. Is it 50/50? Or do they compress a bit at ride height making it closer to 60 down 40 up? Or is it opposite? On say a shock with 11"s of travel, will i get 6"s down and 5"s up? Or is it a split at 5.5"s both ways ya know?
 
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I do have my shocks centered at ride height.
10" stroke 5" available compression at ride height. I'm not using all the shock.
I could likely bottom them out with aggressive driving where both shocks compress equally.
Articulating I'm not bottom a shock. However I am limiting extension so maybe the suspension isnt 50/50 from ride height

I was thinking longer shocks but I might limit strap it since the coils dropping off the upper mount.

Plus I'm spending to much money and dont really need that much extension the shock will always limit extension so I guess my thinking is wrong.

Maybe it can never be 50/50 but can be tuned to be with straps and bump stops

Maybe suspension is tuned to available shock stroke.

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Is there a way to calculate shock based on ride height? If compression and extension are equal then if i measure from eye to eye and get the shock for the extended length being half more the ride height... Itd be the same as flexing it? Just not at a point to flex out yet
 
Is there a way to calculate shock based on ride height? If compression and extension are equal then if i measure from eye to eye and get the shock for the extended length being half more the ride height... Itd be the same as flexing it? Just not at a point to flex out yet

Not usually, best to flex it out and measure.
 
Flexing it out is all well and dandy... from what I’ve seen of 5125s and 5100 rears... there’s no need. The math of ride height and dividing the travel length by 2 equals what my old shocks were... and the options aren’t unlimited. So if 16 is my compressed length I have like 2 options. I can’t get 16 compressed 30 extended for 14”s of travel. Even the fox’s and billies with the second reservoir have like 11-12” max.


All the measurements in the world won’t make the perfect shock appear! lol
 
So when I find vehicle specific 5100s, I have to select rear due to having the top pin mount converted to bolt through via jks... but the 5100 series has bar pins in front and rear- is there a better model of Jeep to search with bar pins eliminated and eyes on top and bottom? Probably a wrangler?
 
Never thought this would be such a chore... usually just got the best shock upgrade that came with the lift... Rubicon Express doesn’t even do shocks anymore from what I understand... they were good tho
 
Problem with the shocks having the pins... ya I can just remove them, but then it doesn’t come with the inner sleeve only one for the top... not huge but not ideal
 
Nope. That’s the exact chart I’m looking at. 5100s are vehicle specific and thus valved specifically for Xjs where the 5125s are universal/ custom. Was going through 5100 XJ shocks and seeing more lengths then the 5125s in that chart.


That said, do you know what the difference between the top and bottom is? Why aren’t they all in one? .


Long story short I’m wanting to find something with about 16”s compressed and over 27”s extended. Probably not gonna happen. ~10”s of travel looks to be all she wrote.
 
Wait what? Not following the last comment..

The valving guide is curious too.. the first line being Jeep/ rock crawler with leaf springs... is it talking front and rear or like out xjs?

I planned on 255/70

But the list below saying Jeep rock crawler with coils should be 360/80... think I’ll stick with 255/70...

And likely go with 26.40 extended or 28.30 and lower the bar pin eliminators
 
I think coil sprung it recomends the hd heavier valving.

Would have to do some digging to figure out what valving they use on xj front for vehicle specific shocks. I'd guess everything with in pin top coil sprung jeep size rig is valved the same.

I'd pick the heaviest valved option they arent as stiff as the mono max.

I think your on longer arms to so a heavier valved shock will work well

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So 360/80 would be better then the 270/55? Or is it the opposite since after you divide the 350/80 = 4.5 vs the 270/55= ~4.9... not sure what to make of that lol
 
Honestly I'm not sure I didnt think of it that way..

Umm I think by they're chart the big number higher is firmer. I also wonder if the big number is the psi the nitrogen is set at. Small number rebound??

Beats me

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Well at least I don’t feel like a total idiot... I’m gonna have to just call a shock “specialist” and shoot the breeze for a few and get these damn things ordered already
 
The shock warehouse pr someplace like that.
Not sure youl dig up much on cookie cutter shocks like the 5125

I'm semi interested in valving compared to monomax but know near nothing about each. So I might dig to.

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