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Old May 30th, 2005, 11:41
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daily driver lookin to get a new jeep and lift 4.5-6.5 with 33-35. wat other mods r needed and how much to they run price wise. thans. mac

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Old May 30th, 2005, 11:43
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learn how to type and spell

learn how to use the search function

nothing will be given to you, work for it...

here is the only link you need
http://www.naxja.org/forum/search.php?
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Old May 30th, 2005, 11:46
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ye thnks. can tpe. hav ben searin fr weks. sory to nconvenence u. i dont know jack bout anything so i dont know what i need
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Old May 30th, 2005, 11:59
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there is everything you need out there.
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Old May 30th, 2005, 12:44
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you need the lift kit, SYE and CV driveshaft, gears, tires, wheels, and patience.

im still working the kinks out of my 6.5" lift. theres lots of little unexpected things that will need addressing along the way. expect to spend no less than 2 grand to do it right. i have close to 3 grand in my suspension and drivetrain alone. that doesnt include tires and wheels.
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Old May 31st, 2005, 01:26
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If you don't have a clue what to search for, you won't get too far with the search tool. Read! Read everything you can get your hands on. Go back 25 pages on this forum and read your way to the present. Keep in mind that there will be at least two ways to approach just about anything you could ever do to your rig. What you’re looking for is what will be best for you. Try to avoid short cuts or the cheapest way out. What provides the best value for your money and the finished (yea, right) product.



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Old May 31st, 2005, 01:40
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u need gears for front and back? rustys was selling a combo package
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Old May 31st, 2005, 02:18
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re-gearing just the front or the back will cause t-case rip-apart-age


imagine a board that you and a buddy are carrying, and he is walking slower than you, but you keep maintaining the same speed...

doesnt work...
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Yes, it's america, but don't dream so big. 4.5" - 6" lifts are big ticket items, if you're worrying about the price tag you need to go with something smaller. 33's and 35's are just too big for an unexperienced jp'er. If you're really serious about getting a jeep and learning how to use it, I would recommend a 3". Rusty's offers a 3" aal for 225. You should start out with 31's. I'm basically repeating everything everyone else has said. You're trying to run before you've learned to walk. Get my drift?
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Old May 31st, 2005, 09:43
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Yes, it's america, but don't dream so big. 4.5" - 6" lifts are big ticket items, if you're worrying about the price tag you need to go with something smaller. 33's and 35's are just too big for an unexperienced jp'er. If you're really serious about getting a jeep and learning how to use it, I would recommend a 3". Rusty's offers a 3" aal for 225. You should start out with 31's. I'm basically repeating everything everyone else has said. You're trying to run before you've learned to walk. Get my drift?
Sorry, don't agree with this. I see nothing wrong with starting out with 4-6" of lift and 33's if a person knows that's what they want to do. It's cheaper in the long run to ask questions and investigate (just like the poster is doing), then build it how you want it the first time, rather than stepping gradually through stages. Nothing wrong with a gradual buildup, and there are benefits, but it can be more expensive in the long run, though it's defintely cheaper in the short run.

Now, as far as learning to drive, that is a gradual thing, and starting out smaller and working your way up is good, but has more to do with the trails you run than your equipment.

Now, to partially answer his question, here's a couple of things to keep in mind. You can run the stock steering up to about 5" of lift, go over that and you'll begin to have problems. The stock axles (and steering) can't handle 35" tires, and are marginal with 33" tires depending on what year model XJ you have. When searching for info, look for axle upgrades as well as suspension info, and steering. Also, search for stuff about trimming, and gears, and then lockers. For prices, go through the 4x4 magazines a shop the ads, there's prices for everything that will give you an idea of what you're up against. For cheaper solutions, we can help around here once you have a few more specific questions.

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Old May 31st, 2005, 11:47
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i just got a 97 sport with 87k on it. ive basically figured id get the rusys 4.5 with shackles and spacers to fit 33s, or the 6.5, 5.5 RE. do i need anyhign other than gears SYE and drive shaft and can gears wait. thanks
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dude. you DONT need 6+ inches of lift to fit 33's. 4.5" is plenty for 33's and you wont have to trim very much and be way more stable.

i have the rustys 4.5" lift with shackles and spacers and i run 36's with some trimming and no rubbing.
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Old May 31st, 2005, 13:50
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I am all for wheelin' it stock, then with a small lift to get to "know" your rig and learn to wheel. Problem is, there isn't really anywhere legal to wheel in Maryland that's worthwhile so you have to go to the playgrounds. To play at the playgrounds you need 33's. Most places 'round here like Paragon or Rausch Creek have trails for rigs with smaller than 33" tires, and they would be a lot of fun for a newbie... the first day or two

After that it's all the same and you'll be buying a set of 33's anyhow.

Get some recovery points, some straps, a fire extinguisher, a CB, and a flag. Join a local club that goes to these places mentioned above and take your XJ to the stocker trails and have fun for a weekend or two. A good club and their guides will teach you what you need to know and you'll have a better idea what you need and what you want. Factor that into what you'll be able to afford and you'll be much more sure which direction to go.

PM me if you want some club info, there's a few around me.
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to fit 33s..... and can gears wait.
Myself, I wouldn't go any larger than 31's without re-gearing. There are plenty around here that have, but I still wanted some kind of low range on the trail. An important factor for drivability on the trailo will be rather you have an auto or a stick. You will get along better with the auto on 33's.

NOTE: The preceeding is a personal oppinion and though others may wish to disagree, none of us will claim to be wrong more than 99% of the time.

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If you do go 4.5" to 6" range, do something with the brake lines. 3" is close to max without changing, or at lest altering them.

that's my .02 for now, I'll come up with more later. (just to be able to keep adding to the bill )
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